In a social media post sent late on Thanksgiving, US president said he would ‘end all federal benefits and subsidies to noncitizens’ following Washington DC shooting
Third world means “brown people country” to him, that’s how it makes sense for them. Almost every question about why this administration does or says anything can be answered with “racism” or “pedofilia”.
“third world” is an outdated Cold War term that referred to countries that weren’t aligned with either the US or USSR.
It’s loosely bandied about these days to indicate an undeveloped country. Out of the developed countries, the US cares the least about its citizens. But anyone who thinks it isn’t a developed country hasn’t been to undeveloped one.
As someone who was born and raised in an undeveloped country, and also has been to Europe, the US, Africa, Asia and all over Latin America. US ain’t all that.
And the US is not even in the top 10 in such measurements, hasn’t been for a decade, and it is also falling fast in all objective measurements of life quality.
“decimate” is an outdated term that means to destroy one tenth of something.
Language changes over time. With the Cold War being over there was no longer a need for a term that referred to countries not involved in the Cold War, so the meaning changed to something useful
But anyone who thinks it isn’t a developed country…
And speaking of meaning, 3rd world does not mean underdeveloped. However, one of the criteria for a country to be considered “First World” is “having a stable democracy.” So whatever you want to classify the US as it sure as fuck isn’t a First World Country.
The US isn’t the best place to live but objective measurements of quality of life prove that it isn’t the worst. Saying it is is nothing more than childish hyperbole.
3rd world does not mean underdeveloped.
Yes, it does. You just said the term shifted to fit that new meaning. The US has a stable democracy, in case you haven’t noticed.
prove that it isn’t the worst. Saying it is is nothing more than childish hyperbole.
Who said that? I didn’t so I don’t know what you’re on about here.
Yes, it does.
For someone who just insisted Third World means nothing outside of the Cold War you are very certain (again) that you are exactly right about its meaning.
The US has a stable democracy
How many of its citizens believe election fraud happened or was attempted in the 2020 election? The 2024 election? How many believe there won’t be any attempts at election fraud in 2028? Citizens that do not trust their democratic process is evidence of that democracy not being stable.
How much has the current government ignored trade deals that they have signed? How much flip flopping has happened without warning in regards to tariffs? Have these changes happened through the proper channels from the appropriate branches of government?
How many stories have their been in the past couple months of the government taking actions that its own courts call rule as illegal, and the government continues to do it anyway defying court orders?
If you think all of this sounds “stable” maybe you shouldn’t be lecturing people on the definition of words.
Who said that? I didn’t so I don’t know what you’re on about here.
What I’m on about is people thinking the US is an underdeveloped country. That it’s “third world”. Whether or not you think the country is immoral, the fact that it’s developed doesn’t change.
For someone who just insisted Third World means nothing outside of the Cold War you are very certain (again) that you are exactly right about its meaning.
I suggest you reread my original comment because I said NOTHING of sort. I said both what it meant then and what it means now. It’s very clear in my comment. I said the meaning changed.
How many of its citizens believe election fraud happened or was attempted in the 2020 election? The 2024 election? How many believe there won’t be any attempts at election fraud in 2028? Citizens that do not trust their democratic process is evidence of that democracy not being stable.
Yeah well 150 - 160 million of them vote every time and despite Trump’s nonsense, the electoral victors are taking office and those ones who lost have left office, including Trump in 2020. 202 was the first time anyone tried pulling the shit Trump pulled. In 2024, it’s a handful of idiots on the internet. We just had a series of elections Democrats won. Your argument that there is no democracy going on is an absolute farce.
How much has the current government ignored trade deals that they have signed? How much flip flopping has happened without warning in regards to tariffs? Have these changes happened through the proper channels from the appropriate branches of government?
Did you forget what your argument is or something? These are all separate issues that have nothing to do with the electoral process.
How many stories have their been in the past couple months of the government taking actions that its own courts call rule as illegal, and the government continues to do it anyway defying court orders?
I’ve seen one, recently. And haven’t looked at it too closely. Otherwise, they have followed court orders, including retuning Brega Garcia. Why don’t you answer one of your own questions for once and tell us about all the times the government has defied court orders?
If you think all of this sounds “stable” maybe you shouldn’t be lecturing people on the definition of words.
Barely any of your points even touch on democracy, which is people electing government representatives. Which has and continues to happen in the US. Elections are happening the results are being respected. That’s indisputable. No matter how much anti-American bigotry you maintain, that fact does not change.
I suggest you reread my original comment because I said NOTHING of sort. I said both what it meant then and what it means now.
How exactly is saying “both what it meant then and what it means now” not you being very certain that you are exactly right about its meaning?
Also, people who live in glass houses…:
Whether or not you think the country is immoral
I suggest you reread my original comment because I said NOTHING of sort
What I’m on about is people thinking the US is an underdeveloped country.
I suggest you reread my original comment because I said NOTHING of sort
Your argument that there is no democracy going on is an absolute farce.
I suggest you reread my original comment because I said NOTHING of sort
My argument is that it’s unstable not non-existant.
These are all separate issues that have nothing to do with the electoral process.
They all have to do with the stability of a democracy. People being able to put a mark on a piece of paper is not sufficient to be a democracy. Unless you think Russia is a stable Democracy and Putin just naturally keeps winning with 95% of the vote?
I’ve seen one, recently. And haven’t looked at it too closely.
Well at least you’re admitting that you aren’t very aware of the situation and not paying too much attention to things. Given that by your own admission you aren’t paying attention, maybe you shouldn’t be speaking so authoritatively about it.
Why don’t you answer one of your own questions for once and tell us about all the times the government has defied court orders?
In an analysis of 165 court orders filed against the Trump administration, the Washington Post found that it was accused of resisting court orders in at least 57 of those cases – approximately 34 percent.
The situation has been made more concerning by the fact that the Supreme Court has continued to allow the administration to seemingly circumvent court orders without ramifications.
A college freshman trying to fly from Boston to Texas to surprise her family for Thanksgiving was instead deported to Honduras in violation of a court order
After spending several weeks battling court orders from federal judges and the Supreme Court to “facilitate” his return, the administration abruptly returned Abrego Garcia in June
Trump and his allies have threatened to impeach Judge James Boasberg after he temporarily blocked the administration from deporting immigrants under the Alien Enemies Act and questioned whether the government intentionally defied his court orders to turn planes around before they emptied out dozens of people into a prison in El Salvador last week.
No matter how much anti-American bigotry you maintain
Yup, glad someone else mentioned this. First world was allied with the USA. Second world was allied with the USSR. Third world wasn’t allied with either.
The reason “third world” became synonymous with “undeveloped” is because of why countries tended to be third world. Countries were largely third world because they weren’t developed enough to be notable allies to the USA or USSR. They didn’t have enough development to be able to contribute things like military tech or manpower outside of their own borders, or corruption was so rampant that the first and second worlds didn’t feel like they would be reliable.
As far as the USA and USSR were concerned, third world countries were only “useful” as land for staging proxy wars. But that meant “third world” quickly became associated with “undeveloped, corrupt, and war-torn.”
Third world means “brown people country” to him, that’s how it makes sense for them. Almost every question about why this administration does or says anything can be answered with “racism” or “pedofilia”.
“third world” is an outdated Cold War term that referred to countries that weren’t aligned with either the US or USSR.
It’s loosely bandied about these days to indicate an undeveloped country. Out of the developed countries, the US cares the least about its citizens. But anyone who thinks it isn’t a developed country hasn’t been to undeveloped one.
As someone who was born and raised in an undeveloped country, and also has been to Europe, the US, Africa, Asia and all over Latin America. US ain’t all that.
I’m sorry, I meant an HONEST person.
A spicy mix of ad-hominem and no-true-scot in one.
Objective measures of quality of life exist regardless of your absolutely meaningless anecdotal evidence.
There’s a lot to criticize about the US without making stuff up.
And the US is not even in the top 10 in such measurements, hasn’t been for a decade, and it is also falling fast in all objective measurements of life quality.
https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2025-mid
Some of those are astonishing.
Safety Index: 71st, lower than Belarus, Lebanon, and Egypt.
Healthcare: 39th, worse than Argentina, Sri Lanka and Mexico
“decimate” is an outdated term that means to destroy one tenth of something.
Language changes over time. With the Cold War being over there was no longer a need for a term that referred to countries not involved in the Cold War, so the meaning changed to something useful
And speaking of meaning, 3rd world does not mean underdeveloped. However, one of the criteria for a country to be considered “First World” is “having a stable democracy.” So whatever you want to classify the US as it sure as fuck isn’t a First World Country.
The US isn’t the best place to live but objective measurements of quality of life prove that it isn’t the worst. Saying it is is nothing more than childish hyperbole.
Yes, it does. You just said the term shifted to fit that new meaning. The US has a stable democracy, in case you haven’t noticed.
Who said that? I didn’t so I don’t know what you’re on about here.
For someone who just insisted Third World means nothing outside of the Cold War you are very certain (again) that you are exactly right about its meaning.
How many of its citizens believe election fraud happened or was attempted in the 2020 election? The 2024 election? How many believe there won’t be any attempts at election fraud in 2028? Citizens that do not trust their democratic process is evidence of that democracy not being stable.
How much has the current government ignored trade deals that they have signed? How much flip flopping has happened without warning in regards to tariffs? Have these changes happened through the proper channels from the appropriate branches of government?
How many stories have their been in the past couple months of the government taking actions that its own courts call rule as illegal, and the government continues to do it anyway defying court orders?
If you think all of this sounds “stable” maybe you shouldn’t be lecturing people on the definition of words.
What I’m on about is people thinking the US is an underdeveloped country. That it’s “third world”. Whether or not you think the country is immoral, the fact that it’s developed doesn’t change.
I suggest you reread my original comment because I said NOTHING of sort. I said both what it meant then and what it means now. It’s very clear in my comment. I said the meaning changed.
Yeah well 150 - 160 million of them vote every time and despite Trump’s nonsense, the electoral victors are taking office and those ones who lost have left office, including Trump in 2020. 202 was the first time anyone tried pulling the shit Trump pulled. In 2024, it’s a handful of idiots on the internet. We just had a series of elections Democrats won. Your argument that there is no democracy going on is an absolute farce.
Did you forget what your argument is or something? These are all separate issues that have nothing to do with the electoral process.
I’ve seen one, recently. And haven’t looked at it too closely. Otherwise, they have followed court orders, including retuning Brega Garcia. Why don’t you answer one of your own questions for once and tell us about all the times the government has defied court orders?
Barely any of your points even touch on democracy, which is people electing government representatives. Which has and continues to happen in the US. Elections are happening the results are being respected. That’s indisputable. No matter how much anti-American bigotry you maintain, that fact does not change.
How exactly is saying “both what it meant then and what it means now” not you being very certain that you are exactly right about its meaning?
Also, people who live in glass houses…:
I suggest you reread my original comment because I said NOTHING of sort
I suggest you reread my original comment because I said NOTHING of sort
I suggest you reread my original comment because I said NOTHING of sort
My argument is that it’s unstable not non-existant.
They all have to do with the stability of a democracy. People being able to put a mark on a piece of paper is not sufficient to be a democracy. Unless you think Russia is a stable Democracy and Putin just naturally keeps winning with 95% of the vote?
Well at least you’re admitting that you aren’t very aware of the situation and not paying too much attention to things. Given that by your own admission you aren’t paying attention, maybe you shouldn’t be speaking so authoritatively about it.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-federal-court-ruling-ignore-b2792939.html
Here’s one I came across after I posted my previous comment:
https://apnews.com/article/babson-student-deported-thanksgiving-467393d8d9b9ae6351f99de7b9cbfb98
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-criminal-contempt-alien-enemies-act-b2734518.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kilmar-abrego-garcia-whistleblower-cecot-el-salvador-return-b2786678.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/boasberg-hearing-trump-deportation-flights-b2719635.html
Pointing out problems is not bigotry.
Yup, glad someone else mentioned this. First world was allied with the USA. Second world was allied with the USSR. Third world wasn’t allied with either.
The reason “third world” became synonymous with “undeveloped” is because of why countries tended to be third world. Countries were largely third world because they weren’t developed enough to be notable allies to the USA or USSR. They didn’t have enough development to be able to contribute things like military tech or manpower outside of their own borders, or corruption was so rampant that the first and second worlds didn’t feel like they would be reliable.
As far as the USA and USSR were concerned, third world countries were only “useful” as land for staging proxy wars. But that meant “third world” quickly became associated with “undeveloped, corrupt, and war-torn.”