I see mental outlaw I upvote
Pre-ordered. Europe needs phones not using US operating systems.
So does the US. Pretty happy with my Pixel 6 pro running grapheneOS but I hope Jolla phones become available here.
Yeah GrapheneOS in itself is fine, I just don’t trust the future of AOSP.
/ex-Sony Mobile AOSP manager (dev. program)
As ex-Sony Mobile AOSP manager, you got any extra insight into problems coming? From the outside it looks like a storm is coming.
I have no trust in Google being - at all - interested in developing AOSP. That shift could be seen already back then (almost a decade ago) and has just become worse since.
The hope for an open source community driven platform lies elsewhere. If it’s Ubuntu Touch, Sailfish or something completely different I don’t know - but to get there we need to stop the delusion that an AOSP fork will do. That way we’ll always be tied to whatever Google decides to do.
I fear we need to get governments to force competition to be allowed. Phones are a hell scape duopoly and Google are closing the nose. This isn’t a thing to fight just with tech, we need to be fighting politically. Though all I do is a monthly payment to OpenRightsGroup for over a decade. Politicians, like most of the population, are completely unable to perceive the problem. If it was cars or TV or something else physical, they would get it.
So does Canada! Please let us buy them too!
I have the 2013 Jolla. While it’s desperately outdated, it’s the last smartphone I actually enjoyed using.
Absolute favorite being N900, but that’s another life altogether.
N9 club here. AFAIK some of the guys working for Jolla are original N9 devs. Obligatory Fuck Elop, if not for him we would be living in an alternate universe.
N9 gang! There were dozens of us! That was the last phone I truly enjoyed using.
Ah, it looked interesting but then I have learned that their operating system, Sailfish OS, is non-free 😥 I would rather use LineageOS or GrapheneOS - to protect my freedom.
Only the Sailfish UI is proprietary. Ubuntu touch might also be worth considering for you.
For android -instead of Lineage, have a look at e/OS (especially paired with fairphone)
I wish they would include details of what CPU it will have.
It’s a Mediatek SoC.
I know but that’s not really specific enough. I’d like to know what I’m getting before (pre-)ordering.





