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  • audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 year ago

    I was talking with a sysadmin once who intentionally removed nano and emacs from any system he was granted access to. His explanation was “if they can’t use vim I don’t want them on my machines”

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      1 year ago

      If a sysadmin expected me to use vim for every minor config tweak, I wouldn’t want to be on their machines either.

    • balp@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Imho on any server today all editors should be removed. You edit on your workstation and provision to the server.

    • 🐍🩶🐢@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Brilliant! I don’t entirely disagree with that. I had vim forced on me at my old job, including actual vi on some of the more ancient systems. I got so used to it that I don’t really know how to use nano and definitely not emacs.

      I never understood what the big deal was. Write. Quit. If you can’t remember that ‘w’ means write and ‘q’ means quit, I don’t know how else to help. Add in some decent options in your vimrc and it is pretty comfortable. I am in no way some guru who knows every shortcut and fancy command out there, but I like using it and it is the first thing I install on a new system.

      I am not one to judge what text editor, OS, phone, car, or computer you like. You do you. If I was a sysadmin that had to deal with people who really shouldn’t be on those systems and that was an easy way to discourage people from screwing with it, then hell yeah.

      • NegativeNull@lemm.ee@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        Knowing VIM does not make one a better sys-admin. You can be an idiot, and still know how to drive Vi/Vim. There is FAR FAR FAR more to managing an OS and than that. If you think requiring VIM is enough to keep unknowledgeable people away from servers, you are probably the one who shouldn’t be managing servers.

        • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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          1 year ago

          Here’s the one reason why I decided to learn Vim rather than emacs: You will find Vim installed somewhere on basically any Unix-like system running in the world. It’s the one I can virtually guarantee is there, as part of busybox if nothing else.

          • laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            1 year ago

            Except for Gentoo, for some odd reason they’ve never included it in the stage tarball so it always has to be installed manually

            Which is even weirder when you realize it is included on the live install iso, so you’ll be using it up until you chroot and all of a sudden find it’s not available anymore

            • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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              1 year ago

              That’s a bit like…at one point during Linux Mint’s installation, it removes gparted. gparted is included in the Live environment, but not in the standard install.