• Deme@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The headline is clickbait since you don’t even need to get past the paywall to see that “The website does not appear to be linked to Hamas”. That domain is registered under Wix.Com Ltd., an Israeli software company. There is no hacking involved here, just an Israeli site masquerading as a Hamas site gloating with attrocities.

    I think that this is part of a propaganda effort by Israel to capitalize on the October 7th attacks by maximising the emotional response from it. It’s all in English, so clearly directed at western audiences. It’s also quite on the nose with the caricaturistic portrayal of evil terrorist baby killers who do not understand PR.

    If an actual Hamas site was hacked by Israelis, I’d expect the hackers to flaunt their victory by posting something the islamists clearly wouldn’t (like idk pictures of bacon, a woman’s ankles or maybe some dudes kissing).

    As for an actual Hamas site, I’d expect a lot less displays of gore caused by Hamas and a lot more displays of gore caused by the IDF.

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      I won’t claim that you’re wrong but I wanted to let you know that the Jewish religion also bans the consumption of pork so that part was a bit off.

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    The website does not appear to be linked to Hamas

    Buying a domain = “hacking” now?

    Putting incitement to genocide online is a heinous thing to do even if you’re making it about genociding your own ethnic group.

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      Let’s not forget that the IDF also hosts Unit 8200, where some of the world’s most insanely adept tech nerds are practically bred like Spartans…

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      It’s pretty frustrating to see how the Ruso/Iranian axis was able to apply violence in exactly the right way to get exactly what they wanted. Everyone would play their part.

      NATO weakened by disagreement about support for Israel. Western left angry and disengaged, leading to right wing (Russia friendly) parties succeeding in elections. Decreased focus on Ukraine.

      All it cost was thousands of other people’s lives!

      Israel was not the only party being baited and were not the only ones who got hooked.

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        All it would’ve taken is for nations like the US, UK, Germany and to a lesser extent France to act in the Israel-Palestine conflict in the same principled way they claimed and seemed to have acted in the Russia-Ukraine one.

        They didn’t: they criticised Hamas and supported Israel when the latter was a victim of a terrorist attack by the former, which does follow the principle, but then did not turn against Israel when they started victimizing Palestenians (not Hamas, Palestinians) by the thousands.

        It turns out the power elites in those nations are not against Fascists murdering civilians, they’re only against non-allied Fascists (such as Russia) murdering civilians but are fine is allied Fascists do it, in other words: their choices are and (one can reasonable deduce) always have been driven by geopolitics, not principle.

        It’s was only the profound hypocrisy of some self-proclaimed “world leaders” that made this situation yield broader dividends to the Russo/Iranian axis and it’s only their persistence in putting geopolitical support for Israel above a principled reaction to what is now outright Genocide by the latter, than keeps on yielding dividends to said axis, both within the Western public opinion and in most of the rest of the World.

        (It’s actually funny how this has made it glaringly obvious that even though Fascism was kicked out of Germany, it doesn’t seem to have left the hearts of the German power elites, who are at the moment happilly supporting a quite extreme application of the most racist of Fascisms - the full-on German-style massacring of those deemed to be less that human by the Fascists - whilst deploying the kind of propaganda that comes straight out of Himmler’s Book Of Tricks against their own population. Guess the lesson they learned wasn’t that violent Racism is bad, but rather than violent racism against a specific ethnic group is bad, but it’s fine against other groups).

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      Nobody really has the moral high ground here. You can argue that what they’re doing is necessary or justified but I think you’d be hard pressed to argue that it’s right or moral.

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      The only “high-ground” in this are the piles of bones on top of which both sides are, and whilst Israel definitelly has a bigger pile (though given the much larger proportion of child corpses in their bone pile, it’s probably not as tall as one would expect), had Hamas had the same means and “unwavering support” from the likes of Germany, the UK and the US as Israel it too would have a much higher pile.

      Also as others have pointed out, it’s an IDF site, not a Hamas site, as it’s an israeli company that owns the “hamas.com” domain name, so if it’s a statement from anybody, it’s from IDF.