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    Europe will then become a gigantic organization that takes forever to take any action, with a fragile election system. There’s a reason why Parisians don’t vote on German issues.

    According to him, the time has now come to unite and overcome the difficulties linked to fragmented EU regulations in every sector, which slow down the EU’s operation, particularly in response to emergencies.

    I’d say what he wants is basically ignore member states for what he wants to do.

    Speaking of the EU’s market potential, Draghi called it “too small”, adding that there “are so many markets and therefore the small companies that are born in Europe, as soon as they grow, they sell or go to the United States”.

    And that’s because US is a big market. Whatever EU does, the tFrench market will not become identical to the German one, let alone Turkish or Czech

    And just imagine. The next Hitler can get the most of europe by one rigged election system and start expanding from there, using the army from Germany, France, Italy, Turkey, etc. etc. It’s just dangerous and idiotic.

    Edit: To whoever replied to me with what follows:

    None of what you said makes any sense

    No, I’m not going to waste time with someone who shows lack of the concept of nuance. Get out of your echo chamber first.

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      Parisians also don’t vote on Lyon issues, just like Berliners don’t vote on Munich issues.

      We already have different levels of government and administration, including both local and European ones. Different issues are handled on different levels. Always have been.

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      None of what you said makes any sense to me. Of course EU states are very different right now, and the language barrier is huge.
      I’ll say some debatable things now but I don’t want to write a dissertation so i need to take shortcuts.
      To unify Europe for real compromises must be made and an european identity must be created, the USA pulled this off almost entirely thanks to having a shorter history and also thanks to things like hollywood pushing calculated stereotypes (an arguably positive form of propaganda). European populations have been fighting each other for thousands of years so it will take some effort, but I think the reciprocal hate is at a legendary minimum nowadays, and there is a lot of mobility.
      I may agree that going straight to unification may be premature, but to be honest the usa have a great deal of diversity and still make it work.

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      Whatever EU does, the tFrench market will not become identical to the German one

      Not overnight, no. But I think that they’re converging.

      Would you say that the market in France of 2023 and Germany of 2023 are more alike or less alike than France of 1923 and Germany of 1923?

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        I mean, they can get closer but that doesn’t mean they’ll have the same market in the end. Even they will, they should not toss away their governmental structures in order to please businesses as the article indicates.

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          Then i recommend you to take a train to a village by the sea, have a look around at the local market there, and then take a train to a village 2 hours inland and look at the local market there. You’ll find entirely different goods and the same goods will have different prices.

          You will never have the same market everywhere. Doesnt matter if inside a country, inside a region, or heck even in my city the same store chain sell the same products at different prices depending if you are in the affluent city center, the poor outer city belt or the effluent suburbs.

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              What kind of markets do you mean then? “The market” is a term for a place in the broadest sense, where people trade goods and services, usually for money.

              And there will always be local differences. If you think the local food market is too benign then look at gas prices, labor costs, building materials…

              It is arbitrary to claim that the differences between two nation states in the EU are a problem and expecting everything to be identitcal, but not demand the same inside a country, inside a region and inside a city.

              For all relevant measure the EU is a single market and the local differences are the least concern for a more integrated EU, as the integration is most advanced in this area.

              And the claimed singularity of the US market, where clearly those differences are just as strong as in Europe and in many cases much stronger, shows that the OP who made this claim has no concept of what he means and expects with this category.