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I don’t remember asking Orban a god damn thing.
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One thing we know of Orban is that he can be trusted with what he says.
Time to throw Hungary out of NATO. Hungary bordering Ukraine, would then be open for invasion. Maybe that’ll scare some sense into Orban
Órban is a regime, theoretically they’re temporary.
But, yeah, not cool, Hungary.
Orban / Lukasjenko… Same shit, different names.
Unfortunately as long as he remains a a loyal puppet state of Moscow he will probably get to stay in power. He will just need to host some Russian nukes and allow Putin to make attacks from his soil with Hungarian troops.
I could have told you that too but you HAD to ask Viktor Orban…
If Ukraine falls then putin will press on to another country, perhaps Hungary.
Oh don’t worry. He’s already there. Suddenly all the old geezers from outside Budapest are vying for the return of “Communism”, and the dumdums youngins are going along with it. Even though they don’t remember how shitty it actually used to be. Nor that it wasn’t really communism either.
And with 40 million ukranians to take revenge on for resisting him, he will have an infinite amount of stormZ units.
There’s people that didn’t already know this?
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Donald Trump will not fund Ukraine’s fight against Russia’s invasion if he is elected US president again, Hungarian PM Viktor Orban has said.
The Hungarian prime minister has repeatedly drawn strong criticism from fellow EU leaders for maintaining close ties with Russian President Vladimir Putin, ever since he launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine on 24 February 2022.
Unlike many other Western nations, Mr Orban refuses to send weapons to its neighbour Ukraine, stating repeatedly that Kyiv is unable to win against a nuclear-armed Russia.
The Republicans - openly encouraged by Mr Trump - say they will not allow the bill to clear the final hurdle in the House of Representatives without first agreeing additional funding for US border security.
Russian forces have recently made gains in eastern Ukraine, as Kyiv experiences acute shortages in ammunition.
Ukraine is critically dependent on weapons from the US, the main supplier, and other Western allies to keep fighting Russia - a much bigger military force with an abundance of artillery ammunition.
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Oh man I hope so, America needs to stop screwing around in other people’s business. The only Americans who benefit from wars are those who sell the bombs. If Putin decides he’s gonna be a real problem, fight him then. Otherwise we are just lighting all our money on fire (literally) for no gain.
And who benefits from letting Putin conquer Ukraine? Besides your handlers, I mean.
America, because we can stop lighting our money on fire in Ukraine, and fix our infrastructure instead.
This user is just a troll account.
Fun fact: On the Voyager app, you can long-press the username to block them.
I think people this dumb exist, but this one looks like a definite troll.
One of so, so many.
Have to point them out consistently or they get fed.
Almost as if there are people who disagree with you…
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I’ve seen this movie before, but in that one, the villain had a silly mustache and walked funny. 🤔
America didn’t bother with that one either, until Mr. Mustache’s rising-sun-buddies blew up a harbor.
Yeah it worked out great for the world letting those goons run around unchecked for a while. I’m sure this one would sort itself if we just stay out of it. /s
How exactly is this the same as Nazi Germany? What, they both started a war?
Also the “appeasement” and isolationist strategies.
“Oo he angey, we’ll let him take Poland if he wants it so bad…then he’ll surely be satisfied and leave the rest of us alone!”
People have written me your exact comment but subbing in about 5 different countries. Makes me think it was actually obvious what Hitler wanted, which is clearly different from what Putin wants.
Well technically the US is the cause of all this, but not how you would think.
To them defeating communism is more important than human life of regional stability. Latin-America is a perfect example, as it’s rife with sanctions and embargos, haphazardly followed by the EU as a matter of precedent for decades now.
Juxtapose that to the cold war, McCarthyism taken to it’s extremes, a fair bit of fear mongering, allow a fascist right-wing regime to grow over the decades to become spiteful of it all and see them do the Euro imperialistic tango once more.
In essence, the fake neo-nazis in Ukraine was a weak excuse. But add US imperialism, formaly known as US NATO imperialism, and you’ve got what can be seen as a fair point. An aggressive foreign adversary, with more than it’s shares of government overthrowals (the CIA has the world high score in sponsored coups), and you’ve got not only geo-political precedent, but also a Goliath to play David against.
LMAO, that is exactly what I think, though I don’t think ive ever put it that well. It’s quite obvious that America is trying to expand it’s reach to include Ukraine, and that is fundamentally a big threat to Russia, seeing as America has made NATO into the “Fuck Russia” club. It’s kind of insane that westerners will rightly say the Russian version of imperialism is wrong, but have no issue with the American version, despite all of South and Central America being living proof of how destructive it is. It’s legitimately MORE harmful to overthrow a government and install a bloodthirsty dictator who ruins your economy for decades to come than it is to bomb cities and engage in traditional warfare.
And in case anyone thinks that was all 20th century stuff, America certainly is not done doing this, they attempted to enact the typical playbook in 2018 in Venezuela (again), by declaring their puppet, Juan Guiado, the winner of an election that was won fairly by Maduro, on top of the mercenaries sent to assassinate Maduro.
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Before anyone responds to @S1CK___0F___Society@lemmy.today offering a factual rebuttal, a quick look at their post history shows their hobby is nearly exclusively collecting downvotes through various means across many different communities.
Thanks for the heads up, they seem like a very sad person.
So, a troll
Or shill or whatever.
It’s been getting bad the last several days.
I can’t wait for us to get closer to November. /S
Remember kids there is a block button
Thanks
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Collecting downvotes
It’s what happens when you tell people the truth.
Clearly we’re not worthy of your wisdom.
Specially here, but you can think whatever you want, I couldn’t care less (:
Yeah, that’s looks to be part of your problem. You’re talking “at” people, not to them. Further, you mix in unnecessary insulting language in whatever point you’re trying to make which immediately alienates your audience.
So you’re not changing minds. Which raises the question, why do you bother? Do you get some kind of personal value out of your martyrdom? Does it allow you some kind of comfort that you’ve convinced yourself you’re right which lets you double down on your edgy takes? Are you angry in life and can’t vent to those you interact with in real life, so you dump on strangers on the internet? If so, I don’t think that is healthy for you.
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Gotcha, so when presented with your own actions that don’t match your present narrative, you deflect. I hope your life improves.
Have a nice day!
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Blah blah blah.
Oh, well if they got downvotes… Of course we can tell he’s a bad person, he disagreed with the hive mind. And we can tell that he was wrong in all those instances because he got downvoted.
Best to just fully disengage from anybody who disagrees with the hive mind, to be safe.
Edit: InB4 this person writes exactly the same thing about me. Hey, why don’t we just ban anyone who has negative karma and just be done with it?
Oh, well if they got downvotes… Of course we can tell he’s a bad person, he disagreed with the hive mind.
If that’s your defense of them, you haven’t looked at their posts. I’m not stopping you. Go ahead! Do you still jump to their defense now? Is this person’s interesting and insightful views being crushed under the boot of conformity or perhaps is it something else?
And we can tell that he was wrong in all those instances because he got downvoted.
If nearly every community you go to doesn’t want you there, then its more than just a philosophical disagreement about the material being discussed.
Best to just fully disengage from anybody who disagrees with the hive mind, to be safe.
That’s cute. There is zero obligation to interact with jerks simply because they disagree with you. Being open minded doesn’t mean you have to consume their vitriol irrespective of how toxic it is or how abrasive the speaker is. The social contract requires each party to bring a certain amount of mutual respect. I didn’t see them bringing it to those conversations.
I didn’t read their comments at all, I just noticed someone being the victim of obviously circular reasoning. This site has gotten very hive-mind ish lately, and comments like the one I replied to are a big part of why. People say the same thing about me, how I’m an obvious troll because I push back on the majority narrative. The impulse to just hand wave away anyone who disagrees with you gets heavily amplified here, for whatever reason.
You do yourself a disservice when you lend your voice without vetting the cause. I worry you’ll get lumped in with them when they see your strong defense for their bad behavior.
That’s fair, I was more annoyed with the arguments being used, because I argue in good faith for things I think are better, and get those same arguments thrown at me.
The moment, when you log into your account just to downvote a russian asset
Block don’t downvote the obvious troll.
Por que no los dos
I agree.
Ukrainians are just cannon fodder for the West. The sooner they realize they can’t win without foreign troops, the sooner they can stop deluding themselves to their deaths.
Good to see another resident troll is out and about. Yawn.
It’s the only time people actually engage with them, even in forums.
So edgy.
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“…as the first signs of Spring appear, many hibernating creatures begin to wake from their slumber. Here we see the common troll emerging groggily from his burrow. He displays his stupid opinions for all to see. And now he is joined by another in his pointless cause…”
Literally what every Western military strategist says, but ok.
I guess you thought Ukraine could retake Crimea, too? Lol.
Tbh I’m just shocked you’re not banned after your blatant racism yesterday. Nice try putting words into my mouth.
Look, we get it. You don’t like what I say.
But that’s no reason to make up lies about me.
So you didn’t think Ukraine could take back Crimea? That’s all you had to say.
Gonna just act like you didn’t say people from Central America have a culture too uncivilized for due process?
It’s more who you seem to be based upon what you say and how you say it than your actual opinions that generates the contempt.
I love the transparent modlog; it makes exposing people like you that much easier.
Nice opinion, tankie.
🥱
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Imagine claiming its good “for everyone else” to stop defending people from a genocidal invasion, then getting butthurt for being downvoted and saying you dont actually support a genocidal invasion.
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Yes. Tribalism is in full-swing.
It should’ve been a wake up call for them when Ukraine’s counteroffensive failed, but some people never learn.
Who’s offensive failed two years ago?
