My biggest concern is they will hold your data hostage if you don’t pay or try to leave.
Also, how can we be assured the privacy practices of their subscription/payment platform are at least better than the (likely blockable) trackers?
Forming a financial relationship with a website is, theoretically, infinitely more traceable to your personal identity than all the cookies in the world.
My bank would probably tell everyone before they did.
Privacy is not paid for. Privacy is taken. it is something that only you can achieve for yourself. paying ransom money will do little
Even if you pay them, your privacy is gone. Any part of you placed in someone else’s hands makes privacy a joke
Now they got ya financial info! Even less privacy!
For true
I misread pay as gay and I thought this thread was going to get spicy
New biometric method just dropped
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Is € 251.88 the estimated loss in revenue? I would like to say that it only makes sense if you assume the user will be on the platform either way, instead of just not paying and leaving. However, my experience with others makes me believe they will take whatever option to get to what they want.
I think it’s a situation for policy but, at least here in the US, our policy makers aren’t in the ethical or learned position to be effective.
What I’m saying is, the boat has holes and I’m concerned.
Nope they make a bit more.
First article that came up in DDG from 2022: https://www.techadvisor.com/article/745709/this-is-how-much-money-facebook-earns-from-your-data-each-year.html
The reason is because your country doesn’t have a GDPR
The main reason is because the vast majority of people do not care or lack foresight of where that trend has been taking us for over 17 years. Surely you have friends or family who do not care. I do.
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Didn’t read article: check
Mindless shitting on America: check
All we’re missing is all rich people are bad!" And we would have hit the Lemmy trifecta.
GDPR is EU legislation, noyb is an EU organisation. What are you talking about?
I’m talking about passing data privacy laws that make the concepot of the OP illegal, like GDPR.
Pay or okay is happening in the EU right now as well. At least in Germany…
Sure, they’ll get fined a few hundred million Euros for it, though
That’s…what the article is about. The pay or consent trend is starting in Europe because of EU laws that forced companies to give people an option to opt out of tracking. Now the EU is looking at another way to force tech companies to offer a realistic option for avoiding tracking.
It kinda seems like you didn’t read the article at all.
It says the EU is deciding how much to fine these companies.
Needs more pihole.
Just avoid using them. Expecting free services without giving out anything is naive.
I’m fine with this trend.
Servers aren’t free and engineers aren’t cheap. Online products need to make money in our world.
If you’re not paying them they need something to sell to someone else.
Problem is that some companies double dip. Pay for the service and have your data sold.
You are naive if you think paying them prevents them from getting more payments by selling your data wherever they can get away with tricking you into consent.
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And the way you don’t bloat your backend?
Expensive engineers
How expensive do we have to be for them to actually listen to us for a change? Or do you mean “expensive consultants?”
Well yeah this presupposes that management knows what the fuck they’re doing.
Which is vanishingly rare. It happens sometimes though. I worked at a small 12 man shop that had an engineer CEO who valued doing things right. Very refreshing.
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Yeah, lemmy is insanely illogical on this topic. Services cost money to run, and the average user is not going to self host anytime in the foreseeable future. I have yet to hear anybody offer a vision of how things might reasonably work without ads OR subscriptions.
The argument as far as I can tell is “FOSS means I don’t have to pay anything because it doesn’t cost anything! If they ask for donations they don’t mean me”
Not a single one of them have a monthly contribution to their instance though. Guaran-fucking-tee it.
For our instance, the users have in fact donated and keep us running. I’m not sure why you’d think users are unwilling to donate.
Because I’ve regularly got in arguments with people who refuse to donate.
The ratio of leachers to seeders in torrents is a similar issue - and seeding is practically free.
Asking $12/yr for software seems like pulling teeth to some.
Asking $12/yr for software seems like pulling teeth to some.
That may be your problem. We don’t ask for anything specific. We simply make a post with how much the service costs and how much users have donated. Users are smart and can take things from there.
I’m not running an instance I’m talking about generalities not specifics.
Between this and the sheer amount of pro piracy, i’m honestly convinced people on Lemmy are cheap fucks.
I can understand not having anything and not wanting to pay. I get it.
But don’t act like it’s free just because you can’t afford it.
They can just fuck off
