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Actually pretty good video.
- Search engine
- Google location service instead of their own (which they quit)
- FakeSpot & Pocket collecting crazy personalized data
Also info about difference between Mozilla Corporation and MZLA Nonprofit.
If you donate to Mozilla, nothing goes to Firefox. Instead they host petitions and beg big tech companies to be more transparent.
They dont focus on old users at all, and it seems they are unable to implement basic stuff.
I still recommend using Firefox, but with the Arkenfox userJS.
Or just use Librewolf.
Firefox is not usable. And dont donate to Mozilla I guess.
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I was all ready to roll my eyes at yet another attempt to blame all the Firefox problems on one thing or another based on superficial and emotional considerations without any data or serious analysis, but it turns out it’s just the same video from a few months ago being posted yet again.
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I criticized the video last time it turned up in my feed. I don’t feel it’s worth doing again. The former over-paid CEO has since departed from that post, FYI.
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I dunno, it might’ve been on mastodon. It’s not as if I said anything that’s likely to change your mind if you think this video is interesting and insightful. I’m not going to watch it again, but I remember it well enough to say that the only real questions it raises are that of how it got so many views and why it is still doing the rounds so many months later. It misses the mark. Stop to consider it carefully and I’ve no doubt you’ll find for yourself much better things to say about the real problems at Mozilla.
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Yup but people dont read to the end of the thread
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Indeed my comment seems unworthy of as much attention as you’ve given it. But you obviously care a great deal about the subject, so I suppose you must’ve noticed that in general much of the rhetorical abuse directed at Mozilla is even more unfair. I suppose it’s because people like to look for easy targets.
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The world is full of surprises!
You never know what new to expect from old
The video is probably factually correct, but very disingenuous with its interpretations and conclusions imo.
Of course Mozilla and Firefox have their own share of problems and bad decisions, and they are pretty well known and talked about from what I’ve seen, but equating it to Google and Chrome is just pure cynicism. Mozilla having to earn money somehow (1% donations!) and Google trying to maximize profits at all costs is not the same thing, even if it might look similar sometimes.
Yes, the result is: FF is the only thing we have. I tried to manually ungoogle Chromium, it sucks. Brave is shady, Vivaldi too.
Use Torbrowser, Librewolf, Arkenfox, Mullvadbrowser and contribute and donate.
What makes Vivaldi shady?
AFAIK, just that it isn’t fully open source. It is source available however, but that’s not the same. It’s sad that they dont go through with it as Vivaldi is by far the most feature rich browser out there.
Firefox has a massive data leak issue, this is unfortunate but nothing new and it’s quite easy to stop.
The thing is, the foundation goes in the completely wrong direction. Instead of developing the browser and create an actually good mobile version of it, they sink money in useless hypetrain bullshit.
For example: on Android Firefox you cannot even change the homepage.
I never see the homepage even. It shows up if you close the browser? I never do that on my phone.
Most important thing is you can change your search engine to whatever you want.
It shows up if you close the browser?
If you close all tabs, if you open a new “empty” tab, if you restart the browser, etc. Having a settable homepage is a no-brainer and I never ever stumbled across a browser that cannot set it.
They are going to make a new tab organizer though.
So we can finally have normal tabs in Firefox, too?
And the Android version doesn’t even have a bookmarks toolbar. You have to go through the menu -> bookmarks -> bookmarks toolbar -> search for the bookmark
I need 6 taps to open a folder in my bookmarks bar in new “tabs”. This is just ridiculous.
exactly. compared to a toolbar which would only be one click that is right on the screen.
Exactly. On desktop this also works as expected. Since the Firefox doesn’t have proper quickdial (neither on desktop nor on mobile) such a functionality is absolutely necessary.
You can’t login to your google account that everyone already has to sync between all your devices
😂😂😂
Some stuff is probably true though, I didn’t listen to most of it. Funds are mismanaged some times (CEO).
Use librewolf and fennec/ mull if you want to support another browser.
I haven’t seen the video, but I don’t think most of the people who were using FF when it was popular and who switched to chrome later did it because of any of the points listed.
So watch the video :D
They specifically mention this issue
14 minute video. Ok I’ll try to view it later. The culprit is Mitchell Baker’s manifesto or whatever it was called, ditching the end user principle and putting predatory companies on an equal basis, instead of trusting that they would look after themselves perfectly well. The browser should instead be 100% on the user’s side. I’ll look for some links when I get around to it.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/details/
- The internet is an integral part of modern life—a key component in education, communication, collaboration, business, entertainment and society as a whole.
- The internet is a global public resource that must remain open and accessible.
- The internet must enrich the lives of individual human beings.
- Individuals’ security and privacy on the internet are fundamental and must not be treated as optional.
- Individuals must have the ability to shape the internet and their own experiences on the internet.
- The effectiveness of the internet as a public resource depends upon interoperability (protocols, data formats, content), innovation and decentralized participation worldwide.
- Free and open source software promotes the development of the internet as a public resource.
- Transparent community-based processes promote participation, accountability and trust.
- Commercial involvement in the development of the internet brings many benefits; a balance between commercial profit and public benefit is critical.
- Magnifying the public benefit aspects of the internet is an important goal, worthy of time, attention and commitment.
Yes that one. Compare item 9 with https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8890.html
I’m not against commercial web activity obviously. It’s just that the commercial community rightly takes its own side and does a good job of it. Mozilla should correspondingly be only on the users’ side, instead of trying to be on both.
And yes I know which side supplies Mozilla with money. But a pro-user approach to the web’s evolution would IMHO have resulted in browsers staying much simpler than they are now, and therefore less expensive to maintain.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://piped.video/watch?v=ugnOM2mzgNU
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
With FF, Its easy to pass your threshold and come back using chrome. So, FF, by being so lazy and inefficient, kinda betrays all these people who advertise FF to others as privacy friendly browser.
Come back?
I’ve been using FF since before chrome was a thing. There’s no “coming back” to chrome.
I only use chrome if absolutely necessary, which is incredibly rare.
I meant general user who seeks comfort experience. Chrome is beautiful, well and actively developed, thoughtful, and gives a smooth experience to user in compare to Firefox. Though, it’s not good for privacy. The same case with all big techs products.
You can apply a chrome or Safari theme to Firefox, if its the looks you don’t like.
This is only anecdotal, but I did go back (and stayed!) on Firefox due to the comfort and experience. When I use edge at work I miss a lot some features and usability of Firefox, very rarely I miss something of edge/chrome while on Firefox.
