Israel has been terrorising civilians since thie founding. Mass murder is the defining characteristic of the Israeli national identity.
Fucking terrorist state. Can’t wait for it to be abandoned by the U.S. and be torn apart as it deserves.
Note for pedantics: I’m talking about the state and its apparatuses, not the citizens of Jewish people. Similar to the distinction between Third Reich and German citizens of the time.
Kindly remind me what happened to the “german citizens of the time” during the Third Reich?
They… A lot of them got drafted or volunteered to be a part of the larger German army? A lot of them didn’t know about the heinous acts of the SS? What they knew about were propagandized about mostly moving the jewish population out of the country? Poles being liberated, same as we hear about “liberation” or bringing democracy these days? Most of them not even knowing about any extermination camps or such?
A lot of drafted/volunteered youth thinking it is about “the prosperity of the fatherland” got killed in the war? While I’m a proponent of not lauding the death of soldiers, I live in the real word where bullets can’t be stopped by kind words, hugs, kisses or butterflies. So they kinda got what was needed to be done, maybe not what they deserved as their intentions weren’t the ones of Nazis directly.
Rest of the civilian population? They suffered the consequences of bringing such an extreme nationalist party to power by their own votes and support, not by tyrannical power grab. And from what I see, Germans citizens are doing pretty well currently, after their fascist state has been torn apart and they got to see the outside of their propaganda bubble.
Kindly tell me which part of this sounds worse than the genocide that has been perpetuated in Palestine all these decades?
Kindly remind me what happened to the “german citizens of the time” during the Third Reich?
They died by the millions right until the allies put a stop to the war their leaders started.
It’s not an assault or an attack - it’s a modern-day sacking.
The only modern history equivalents to this is the infamous “Rape Of Nanjing” and the liquidation of the Warsaw Ghetto.
Using violence to achieve a political aim? Can someone help me answer this crossword question. It’s nine across.
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I’ll be the last man on Earth to defend Israel, but this is how wars have always been fought, breaking the will of the population. The Allies pounded Axis civilians and the North hammered Southern civilians.
At some point in past decades, the world decided that terrorizing civilians was off the board. Maybe it’s because we can see the results with our own eyes? Israel didn’t get the memo.
During WWII, bombing civilians wasn’t yet a war crime, but still frowned upon (Roosevelt wrote an appeal to stop it in September 1939 “Appeal to Great Britain, France, Italy, Germany, and Poland to Refrain from Air Bombing of Civilians”).
It has been a war crime for ~80 years now, so no, Israel doesn’t have an excuse. Especially since directly bombing civilians wasn’t something generally practiced by the allies, with exceptions like Dresden, which while being for terrorising citizens, was also because of how important Dresden was for German infra.
Israel is indiscriminately bombing help convoys, hospitals, schools and everything with the guise of being at war with a vaguely defined terrorist organisation and not even the country they’re bombing, per se.
At some point in past decades, the world decided that terrorizing civilians was off the board. Maybe it’s because we can see the results with our own eyes?
People have been arguing against that since as long as wars have existed basically, but definitely after WWI and certainly after WWII when it was codified.
It’s rather interesting, really.
Especially since directly bombing civilians wasn’t something generally practiced by the allies
Bullcrap.
The mass-slaughter of civilians from the air became SOP for the allies by about 1943. The firebombings of cities like Dresden and Tokyo is still some of the most heinous mass-atrocities in modern history - if not all history. This secret is out of the bag - the (supposed) “military value” of these targets was secondary to the mass-slaughter of civilians - and the architects of these atrocities (like Curtis LeMay) wasn’t shy about bragging about it, either.
And the US did even worse during the Korean and Vietnam Wars.
The bombing of Dresden which mainly targeted German civilians was one of the stupidest allied decisions in WW2 which only motivated the Germans to fight even harder.
Purely targeting civilians will only rally a population behind the armed resistance. Because armed resistance becomes the only option.
America has lost many a war from this.
Kind of like how Trump openly commits stochastic terrorism and the
crunchwrapsupreme court defends him giving him absolute immunity as if he were a king?