If a single click on a phishing email can ruin the entire company, the blame doesn’t lie with that individual.

  • slazer2au@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    There are very few one click total compromises out there.

    Most of the time clicking on the link will get to a phishing page to harvest credentials or prompt to download a zip or pdf which has the actual malware exploit/payload.

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      5 months ago

      True, in many cases there is a whole chain of vulnerabilities and misconfigurations, and everything starts with one phishing mail. For example:

      • successful phishing
      • VPN without 2FA, allowing the attacker access to company services
      • internal services with vulnerabilities, allowing the attacker to compromise a server
      • permission misconfiguration, allowing lateral movement

      That was the point of this meme. It is not phishing alone that gets the company in trouble, its mostly a series of misconfigurations.

      I think that in cyber security, we have to assume that phishing will be successful sometimes - and be prepared when it happens.

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      5 months ago

      Yep and then whatever is trying to execute should be limited by user permissions, app whitelists, EDR / MDR, and a pile of other defenses.

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      5 months ago

      In my time as a cybersecurity professional, my approach is always to blame the system, not the person.

      If they clicked on a phishing link: 1) that email should never have reached their inbox, 2) that link should never have loaded, and 3) our awareness training is not up to snuff.

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      We have test-phishing mails sent by our IT-Sec team on a regular basis. There’s usually an obvious one and a better made one. First round 10% clicked the obv. one, 99% the good one.

      We had a lot of trainings after that.

      Last year the numbers went down to 5% and 80%.

      If your security concept relies on both of these numbers being zero, you’re an incompetent hack trying to shift the blame on end users instead of doing your job.

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        5 months ago

        Thank you, that was my point! Shifting the blame on the user doesn’t help anyone.

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        5 months ago

        Welcome to corporate phishing emails, then, where the page that loads scolds you for being an idiot and submits your name to the boss for automated remedial phishing training, which must be completed lest it also tells HR…

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    5 months ago

    “As an engineer, I reserve the right to click on the fake phishing emails from IT, just to see what they do.”

    My boss: “…god dammit.”

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    5 months ago

    While I somewhat agree, there are things even the best spam filters can’t filter and Zero-Day-CVEs that Sys-Admins can’t fix.

    On the other hand, the company should be confident in their backups, which in most cases should allow for a continuation of their activities.

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      5 months ago

      You’re forgetting all the hardening in the middle to prevent the privilege escalation that would enable mass deployment of ransomware.

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      5 months ago

      Adversaries are well prepared. Go restore your cold archive from tape, petabytes worth, see how long it’ll take you. See how much data you missed before the last snapshot.

      Ransomware is no joke and nobody is actually prepared for it.

    • cron@feddit.orgOP
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      5 months ago

      Thats a good start, yes. Combine strong authentication with the permissions that people really need.

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    5 months ago

    Maybe not finacilly or legally but image wise it can. Depending on the company and the people involved a company can 100% loose a lot image wise and in consequence, money wise