US presidential candidate, Jill Stein, says because of AIPAC’s $100 million funding of the US election, it has become '‘politically toxic’ to speak out against the genocide in Gaza.

‘If we have concerns about the right to life before birth, how about a right to life after birth,’ she said in reference to Israel’s killing of innocent children and the elderly in Gaza. US President Joe Biden 'can end this war with a phone call’, she added.

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      Oh, she isn’t a serious or viable candidate for way more than that, not least of which is the fact that she’s a Russian asset.

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      Reagan did it with one phone call to Begin, calling the invasion of Lebanon a Holocaust. While Biden privately supported it in 1982 saying he would go further than Israel.

      Source on the Reagan phone call to Begin: https://www.nytimes.com/1982/08/13/world/reagan-demands-end-to-attacks-in-a-blunt-telephone-call-to-begin.html

      Source on Biden saying to Begin he would go further: https://theintercept.com/2021/04/27/biden-israeli-invasion-lebanon/

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        Because something that happened 42 years ago is relevant today.

        Gee, I wonder of the world and politics and power dynamics are different today.

        Hmmmmm 🤔

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          It is relevant. It proves Biden could stop the genocide in Gaza but just like in 1982 he doesn’t want to. When Reagan angrily called Begin’s actions a Holocaust, Biden was privately saying to Begin he would go even further.

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            It “proves” nothing.

            Things that happened 40 plus years ago have just about zero bearing on what happens today.

            Maybe you’re unfamiliar with everything that’s happening since 1982 but things are considerably more complicated and shitty than they were then and Israel obviously doesn’t give a shit what the rest of the world thinks.

            Do I think that the USA could stop sending weapons and aid to Israel? Without reservation, YES.

            Will a think that a phone call from Biden would stop Netanyahu from continuing?

            Maybe you should call too.

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        Hey guys, I’ve seen this several times since entering this thread so it must be true!

        Fuck off with your spam

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      If she doesn’t take the AIPAC dollarydoos and sell her soul she’ll never win is what you mean?

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      It’s true. She’s speaks truth to power and is therefore kept out of political discussion.

      Israeli military is funded by the US. They are given weapons. They are given logistical and intelligence support by the US. They are given diplomatic support. They are trained by the US. In almost everything but name, they are a US force. They would not exist without US support.

      Joe Biden can tell them what to do at any time, and he chooses to ok the genocide.

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        Truth to power? Shes Putin’s number one fan, and has been for a decade+.

        Jill Stein is a bought and paid for russian asset. Her only role is to cause turmoil in american elections however she can, by hopefully siphoning off left leaning votes in key states. She did just that in 2016, a year after this putin meeting, where her vote totals in key swing states were higher than the total margin for Hilary’s loss. Her efforts were part of why Trump won in 2016, leading to all the chaos and turmoil we have today.

        Her trying to cause division and sow discord in the left wing during this election is the exact same thing she did in 2016 and 2020.

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          Ah yes the infamous dinner she had with Russian notable. Having a dinner with a foreign power obviously means you are a paid spy to disrupt elections. Lots of dots to connect there!

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        The president can’t just unilaterally withhold Congressionally approved aid. You may recall Trump was impeached for doing exactly that.

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    No, he can’t, because Bibi doesn’t give two shits what Biden or the Americans think.

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      Bibi relies on Biden to veto any United Nations action against Israel.

      Bibi couldn’t do what he’s doing if he didn’t know Biden is on his side.

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      Reagan did it with one phone call to Begin, calling the invasion of Lebanon a Holocaust. While Biden privately supported it in 1982 saying he would go further than Israel.

      Source on the Reagan phone call to Begin: https://www.nytimes.com/1982/08/13/world/reagan-demands-end-to-attacks-in-a-blunt-telephone-call-to-begin.html

      Source on Biden saying to Begin he would go further: https://theintercept.com/2021/04/27/biden-israeli-invasion-lebanon/

      Biden doesn’t want the genocide to stop.

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        Begin was rational though. Different times, different people. That was the whole thing with the Camp David Accord under Carter.

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          Begin wasn’t a rational at all. He was a war criminal responsible for some of the worst massacres in 1948. Even then he was better than Biden.

          Begin said he was shocked at how passionately Biden supported Israel’s invasion when Biden “said he would go even further than Israel, adding that he’d forcefully fend off anyone who sought to invade his country, even if that meant killing women or children.” Begin said, “I disassociated myself from these remarks,” adding: “I said to him: No, sir; attention must be paid. According to our values, it is forbidden to hurt women and children, even in war. Sometimes there are casualties among the civilian population as well. But it is forbidden to aspire to this. This is a yardstick of human civilization, not to hurt civilians.” The comments were striking from Begin, who had been notorious as a leader of the Irgun, a militant group that carried out some of the worst acts of ethnic cleansing accompanying the creation of the state of Israel, including the 1948 Deir Yassin massacre.

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    Doesn’t even have to be a phone call…

    He just has to draw a line in the sand and say Israel gets no more weapons till they’re on the right side of the line.

    Obama did it. Biden said it was dumb, but it worked.

    Now Biden isn’t doing it, and Israel went on a full on genocide.

    But Biden will never under any circumstances do it, so Israel knows as long as Biden is in office they can do whatever they want.

    trump would want money/favors/praise, and if push comes to shove, he’ll abandon them in an instant if he thought it would be better for trump or if Putin told him to.

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    Reagan did it with Begin with one phone call. Biden is just a Zionist and it is his genocide. Just like how he did in 1982 in Lebanon while Reagan called it a Holocaust.

    Source on the Reagan phone call to Begin: https://www.nytimes.com/1982/08/13/world/reagan-demands-end-to-attacks-in-a-blunt-telephone-call-to-begin.html

    Source on Biden saying to Begin he would go further: https://theintercept.com/2021/04/27/biden-israeli-invasion-lebanon/