What tf is going on over there I’ve not been to Reddit since the 11th
Either only the scabs are left, or there’s a concerted smear campaign against the mods who helped with the blackout. I lean towards the latter, but it’s probably both.
There’s a lot of upset users who had no idea that a protest had been planned for weeks ahead of time or that the protests made the news.
They just showed up looking for their content, and having it cut off is like when your heroin supplier leaves town.
I talked to some kid who was furious he couldn’t see r/starwars.
And he blamed it all on the mods.
When I explained the whole history of what was happening, he said he supported the protest but wanted to subs to go public again.
:/
Reddit is now filled with a bunch of people saying “we don’t even NEED mods! they just make everything worse!”, because this is apparently their first time on the Internet.
I had a Hacker News discussion where in separate comments, a guy said:
- all the moderators should go away because they’re not needed, and he doesn’t agree with their decisions
- but there should still be moderation
- but he’s not going to do it because he’s not here to do unpaid labor
- but of course he wouldn’t pay for there to be moderators
Internet discourse in a nutshell
I think we talked to the same guy
@Raji_Lev @Casmael @zedtronic @JoeCoT
Chances are good that it was separate dudes. This is not an uncommon thought loop.
Aw… I went and made myself sad.
@dismalnow do we have to tag people here for them to see replies?
I’ve been getting notified of replies even when I don’t get tagged
The people that cared distanced themselves already so a new majority of indifference starts to emerge. Those that are still active on Reddit are now more likely to just want things back to normal.
The contempt reddit’s defenders have for reddit is a bit boggling. They seem to truly hate the site and the communities they want to be open, and they seem to truly hate the mods. Spez ought to be careful with friends like that, they are guaranteed to dislike whatever his next subreddit banning is
Me commenting before the protest
“You are NOT contributing with those low effort comments”
Me commenting after the protest
“ANY kind of interaction is contributing!”
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I’ve been lurking on old.reddit.com and I’ve seen a lot of people who are upset about the protesting. They are calling it childish, they are calling protesters white knights, etc. If you go on r/JustUnsubbed you can see a bunch of people whining about it. But it really just shows people don’t get it nor do they care to. They just care about being mildly inconvenienced.
Some of them are starting to go on r/Save3rdPartyApps to tell people who are upset to “get off our high horse” lol
It’s just sad that people are trying to defend corporate greed man…
for free
I’m sorry, what? I need details on this.
It’s a very poor analogy.
I suppose it works better like so:
Imagine…
You’re in line at McDonald’s talking to a buddy about how Burger King has better quality, is free, and that you’ll not be returning to McDonald’s in July because their burgers are going to cost $0.24 per microgram, and the owner is a clown.
Someone unaffiliated with McDonald’s who is also standing in hears your comment and starts shouting for you to “GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE!”
… not because they don’t like Burger King.
… not because they have never tried Burger King.But because they closely identify with McDonald’s, and the clown that represents it.
Hope that’s clear. Heh
I mean…what’s wrong with that? The original meme talks about society, something you can’t opt-out of.
You can absolutely opt-out of Reddit. Reddit is a private company and it’s CEO has announced he doesn’t care what the users of the site think, he will be making any changes he damn well pleases. Continuing to use the site after the CEO has already given a hardline “No” to all requests (and then telling the media he idolizes Musk and his overhaul of Twitter) is implicitly accepting you’re fine with the answer and the changes.
I think the problem stems from the fact that Reddit and other ‘private’ businesses are acting like public squares. People use these systems as public spaces in which they can build communities, relationships and ideas. It’s not just a question of “well it’s private so they can do whatever they want”. Lawful is not the same thing as ethical. Some people on Reddit have their society on Reddit. What does Reddit owe them? It’s a demand to ask ‘How should Reddit and other businesses participate in society in a way that is ethical and helpful?’
Pretty much how the whole site is going right now.
The people bringing actual content there have mostly left from what I can tell, now it’s almost all reposts.
Unfortunately that seems to be enough to sustain a platform nowadays.
The bot accounts are becoming the most active
They are so easy to spot that I’m convinced they are deployed by reddit themselves.
Unfortunately they can still copy content from other platforms. The comments will probably devolve, but investors hardly care about that.
“Average words per comment” would probably be a good metric for the quality of discussion on the platform.