• Norah - She/They@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 months ago

    Like, I do get you’re trying to make a joke, but this is actually true in my opinion? Especially enlisted service members. It’s literally a crime for them to not do what they’re told, and what they’re told to do often is murder people. Officers have a lot more control but they’re also required to follow orders. The people ultimately in charge are politicians, and I’d say most of the ones sending armies to war are bad people.

    Inb4 someone says “why join up then?”:

    1. Conscription exists.
    2. It’s often the only choice to lift yourself and family* out of poverty for some people.
    3. In the US they literally have army recruiters in high schools. 🤢
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      3 months ago

      FUCKING HIGH SCHOOLS?? Those kids can’t even pee without permission, yet somehow they are considered adult enough to be sent into the Middle East to kill people???

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        3 months ago

        So thankful I didn’t grow up there, I can’t even imagine dealing with that on top of all the other high school angst.

        Edit: I should say, you do have to be 18 to serve. But it’s still indoctrinating kids into thinking that’s all they’ll be able to do to survive…

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      I don’t know how widespread this is, but in the german army it is illegal to follow an order if you think it violates human rights. They specifically wanted to make a law against the “I was just following orders” excuse, you’re still guilty.

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        3 months ago

        It doesn’t prevent them from attracting a lot of neonazi’s and giving minimal (to no) punishment to said neonazi’s. It also hasn’t prevented then from committing war crimes in Afghanistan.