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    @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org A for-profit corporation that absolutely loathes feedback from end users and community members, except when it’s dripping with praise for their latest attempt to appease techbro capitalists, is cutting off an avenue for feedback on a platform largely populated by people who violently hate techbro capitalism. I’m surprised it didn’t happen sooner.

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      How did this even happen? Is Mozilla made up entirely of people who didn’t get accepted by google?

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    Mozilla is less worse than Google et al, but let’s be frank - we need a community-developed browser. Enough of this corporate bullshit.

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    @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I left Mozilla after a decade of working at the Foundation because it was more than obvious that it had no idea wtf it was doing and they were no longer aligned with my moral compass. And they’ve just kept on reinforcing that over and over the last few years.

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        @Dindonmasker sorry, are you trying to blame individual contributor for the years long failing of the executive team? Because that’s what it sounds like, and that’d be quite an amazingly short-sighted thing to say, so I hope that’s not what you’re saying.

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          No? I’m just saying that maybe whoever cared more before are no longer there. I have no idea of the structure of mozilla management but if something changed it’s because people changed.

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            @Dindonmasker unfortunately it’s worse than that, the people who cared the most absolutely changed, but not by leaving. Instead they were put at the top, and ran things into the ground.

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    @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Oh, I hadn’t heard… I… I just don’t get how Mozilla keeps making these choices that burn community goodwill.

    But your comic is a fun, lighthearted way to represent it. One day that fox of fire will have a good caretaker.

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    @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org The web can’t afford for Firefox to go away. I really hope someone figures out how to make Mozilla effective and sustainable.

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    @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Mozilla has become kind of a clown I will admit. But its not 100% evil like Google. Its close, but there’s still some traces of goodness left. Or they would embrace webextensions v3 without caring.

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    @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org In the context of this: while many of the actions of @mozilla@mozilla.social feel annoying (i.e. axing FirefoxOS just before it became widespread in South America) and while it doesn’t look like that if you plot a market share which includes the massively growing number of mobile devices with a bundled browser:

    Firefox has been mostly keeping its users since 2017.

    https://www.draketo.de/software/firefox-usercount

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      2017 and 2021 it stayed mostly stable at 190 million users

      Interesting that they almost managed to stop the decline for a few years there. In 2024 after the recent string of nonsensical decisions it’s down to 158 million.

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        @kbal@fedia.io yes.

        While they were widely criticized during that time, 2017 to 2022 were actually pretty stable years. And that despite constant uncertainty about the future (“will Google continue to pay?”) and failures to get other revenue sources (AFAIK).
        @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @mozilla@mozilla.social

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          @kbal@fedia.io I have the impression that CEO’s and equivalents often forget the importance of the existing userbase.

          So instead of making the existing people happy and trying to reach others from that base, they shoot for the big crowd — but without having enough to stand on.
          @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @mozilla@mozilla.social