• Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          275·
          2 months ago

          Were talking about m serie, the fps may not be amazing but macos cant run windows games like linux can. When every wwdc apple just shows off some game they paid a metric crap ton to get it ported. Which isnt really gaming, if your selection is like 5 games.

          • june (she/her)@lemmy.ml
            103·
            2 months ago

            That’s so false… That’s like saying the only games Windows can run is Halo and whatever crap is in the Windows Store. Steam has thousands of out-of-the-box compatible games and Crossover helps cover many other games.

            Before I got I rebuild my Linux gaming PC (watercooling shenanigans) I gamed for a solid year on MacOS. I played Baldur’s Gate 3 on release for Windows through Crossover, was on my second play through when official Mac support dropped. I’ve played Civ 5 & 6 with friends. I’ve made many cities in Cities Skylines. I played FF7 Remake again. Even for old 32-bit Windows games like Touhou 6 run with minor tweaking.

            • AlotOfReading@lemmy.world
              181·
              2 months ago

              Crossover is the commercial version of the code behind proton, developed by the same company. It doesn’t work as well on Mac as on Linux. Since “Like Linux but worse” is exactly the point you’re responding to, so you’re pretty much in agreement with them?

              • june (she/her)@lemmy.ml
                1·
                2 months ago

                What Steamymoomilk had stated previously is that Linux on Apple Silicon is better than macOS for gaming. But Proton support is not only a very new feature to Asahi Linux but also still has issues.

                x86 Linux > macOS (with or without Crossover) > Asahi Linux on Apple Silicon macs (what the previous commenter said was better than macOS).

            • flying_sheep@lemmy.ml
              4·
              2 months ago

              Hey, nobody disputes that.

              Doesn’t mean macOS has a comparable portfolio of games it runs. Proton just works better than crossover or Whiskey or whatever.

              • Draconic NEO@lemmy.world
                2·
                2 months ago

                Unsurprising since Proton is optimized by Valve specifically for playing games. Crossover, Wine, and Whiskey are more general purpose. They will work fine and can be optimized and tweaked, but Proton will work better out of the box.

              • june (she/her)@lemmy.ml
                1·
                2 months ago

                I guess I didn’t clarify, but there comment from the previous user had stated that on the new M Series chips that running Linux is better for gaming on those devices (ala Asahi Linux).

                No doubt Proton on normal x86 Linux PCs is great. My primary desktop and ROG Ally has been painless (aside from some old games that have issues regardless of OS).

                But Proton is still buggy on Asahi Linux (support was literally announced a week ago or so). Meanwhile of the games I run on Steam, only a handful needed Crossover or Whiskey for macOS.

    • henfredemars@infosec.pubEnglish
      19·
      2 months ago

      Try Whisky! It uses Wine and has conversion for the Apple graphics layer. It runs some games you can’t get running otherwise.

            • henfredemars@infosec.pubEnglish
              1·
              2 months ago

              My main is also Linux but my wife has a MacBook she still prefers. Still trying to find a good way for her to run a few games.

              • flying_sheep@lemmy.ml
                2·
                2 months ago

                I haven’t found anything better than Whiskey. It reminds me of the finnicky Wine days before Proton, but so far the problems I encountered are purely cosmetic. Granted, I only tried pixely indie stuff.

    • SatyrSack@feddit.orgEnglish
      6·
      2 months ago

      You should probably also update the meme faces to whatever the hell the kids are using these days.

    • itsJoelle@lemmy.world
      5·
      2 months ago

      Christ. Fr. I was so excited when the Asahi team started to show off Vulkan games on M1 chips. Once it’s had a bit of time in the oven I’m ripping MacOs out of an, otherwise, wonderful device for what I paid for it.

    • nomad@infosec.pub
      11·
      2 months ago

      I can attest to that. Parents tried Linux to prevent me from gaming. Learned to dual boot first, got into security and Linux later and am engineer today. N+=1

  • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
    756·
    2 months ago

    Then the kid installs Proton and your keikaku* fails miserably.

    *TN: keikaku means plan.

    • Draconic NEO@lemmy.world
      5·
      2 months ago

      It comes with Steam by default and is automatically used out of the box when a native linux version of the game isn’t found.

          • Draconic NEO@lemmy.world
            1·
            2 months ago

            I think now it’ll just run it through proton if a native linux release isn’t found. At some point they seem to just have enabled Proton support by default for games that support it. It’s only for games that have a non-functional linux Release that you have to mess with them.

        • Draconic NEO@lemmy.world
          4·
          2 months ago

          Are you sure? I know it was like that when it first came out but I think now they have it enabled by default, just install and run the games under it automatically.

        • Petter1@lemm.ee
          3·
          2 months ago

          I did not have to enforce proton on cyberpunk which is running using proton 🤔

  • TurboWafflz@lemmy.world
    472·
    2 months ago

    I played so much supertuxkart in middle school, then got pretty good at figuring out how to configure wine to make everything work in high school, and now as an adult wine has gotten so good that I just click on whatever I want to play on steam and 90% of the time it just works flawlessly, I don’t even always remember which games are native and which are running in wine these days.

    Anyway yeah, using linux never made me spend less time playing games

    • Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org
      7·
      2 months ago

      Supertuxkart is one of the best games that I’ve ever played.
      Mostly because it has a multiplayer mode. Much more than LAN multiplayer, it had options to map controls for the 2nd player on the same keyboard.
      Used it to play with my relatives and it was fun.

  • PapstJL4U@lemmy.worldEnglish
    181·
    2 months ago

    I think a friend of mine would be delighted to have his children play video games.

    They are only consuming [tiktock, yt, other social media].

    I think he rather wants his children beating Red Alert campaign, than cpnsum 10s tiktocks.

    Modding your first game, opening condigs ans inis, because key-remapping wasn’t a thing…all the gateways to interact with file system.

    • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
      6·
      2 months ago

      I’m hooking mine up on games as soon as they can hold a mouse and a keyboard, airgap the PC.

      • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
        4·
        2 months ago

        My oldest is about ready for her first computer, so I have an ewaste laptop earmarked for Christmas that I’ll have to tweak the configuration a bit more on before then.

        She’s been getting better at better playing Minecraft and learning how to ask us how to spell the names of things so she can search for them in Minecraft, and getting pretty good with the mouse and keyboard too

        • f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          I caught my son using Linux PC and Android tablet at the same time… he was just using the microphone in Gboard to learn to spell out what he wanted to put on his signs in Minecraft Java.

    • jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org
      6·
      2 months ago

      Learning how to edit config.sys to get sound working without internet help was a rite of passage for many.

      • socsa@piefed.social
        6·
        2 months ago

        The first time I knew I wanted to hack the planet was when I figured out how to edit a config file in Castles II: Siege and Conquest which let me start with max gold and resources so I could finally conquer the entire map and make that smug fucking pope eat my entire ass.

    • Petter1@lemm.ee
      3·
      2 months ago

      I plan to teach my son how to mod consoles and play retro games on them 😂

  • BougieBirdie@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    11·
    2 months ago

    I think the only game that’s given me a hard time with linux is Call of Duty

    And that’s not to say that you couldn’t get it to work, it was just more than one click to set up so I couldn’t be bothered.

    Honestly, probably better of without CoD anyway

  • potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fishEnglish
    6·
    2 months ago

    This is true. I have a completely broken arch linux install right now, wine doesn’t work. Only games I play are OpenTTD and Aisleriot Solitaire on my laptop.

  • neidu2@feddit.nl
    3·
    2 months ago

    This got me thinking: If I, for some masochistic reason, decided to switch to MacOS - is it possible to install it on an average PC?

    • otacon239@lemmy.world
      10·
      2 months ago

      I don’t know of the community is still going with the release of Apple Silicon, but you used to be able to with the Hackintosh project. I can’t imagine you still can with the switch to ARM.

    • Petter1@lemm.ee
      2·
      2 months ago

      Well, you got to be lucky with your hardware setup, snd it will be hard anyway. Search for hackingtosh. I think, it only works with intel releases of macOS, that has to be altered in some way 🤔