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SimpleX Chat’s response to Wired’s article about neo-Nazis moving to its encrypted messaging app.
Edit: manually cross-posted from https://links.hackliberty.org/post/2981854
Wired ran a smear campaign… Who paid for it?
I thought the same when I was reading the Wired article. Fuck Wired, extremely not very cash money of them.
Read the article by wired previously and it rubbed me the wrong way. I don’t doubt that there are Nazis using it, but I also don’t doubt that there are Nazis driving ford cars and I know a big chunk of fediverse traffic is Nazis. Outside of the comment from the SimpleX developers there wasn’t any mention of it just being a tool, with plenty of traffic not even going through SimpleX hosted servers. Seems like it was meant to make readers think Nazi when they heard SimpleX. As apposed to reporting on Nazis moving from one tool to a better tool, e.g. Chevys got recalled so many people, some Nazis, bought fords instead.
Nazis also use Facebook and Twitter btw
I bet Nazis also drink water and breathe.
The response from SimpleX reads like a naive idea that just because there are Nazis here doesn’t make us Nazis.
The Wired article by David Gilbert focusing on neo-Nazis moving to SimpleX Chat following the Telegram’s changes in privacy policy is biased and misleading. By cherry-picking information from the report by the Institute for Strategic Dialogue (ISD), Wired fails to mention that SimpleX network design prioritizes privacy in order to protect human rights defenders, journalists, and everyday users who value their privacy — many people feel safer using SimpleX than non-private apps, being protected from strangers contacting them.
Yes, privacy-focused SimpleX network offers encryption and anonymity — that’s the point. To paint this as problematic solely because of who may use such apps misses the broader, critical context.
Like, guy, the Nazis are using that idealistic vision of a shared private world and staining it with bigotry and hatred. If nothing is done, SimpleX is a Nazi network.
I think we can agree that Nazi’s are not something we want to assocuate with. Help me understand, what would you do? How would you limit the service to
prioritize[s] privacy in order to protect human rights defenders, journalists, and everyday users who value their privacy
but then also filter out Nazi’s? How would this be different from TOR?You can’t. Technology that can be used for human rights can be used for Nazi content. That’s just the way the world works. You can’t put a back door into it to stop the Nazi content because then the back door will be used by anybody who has access to it and also those who don’t. You cannot back door math. Sorry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Strategic_Dialogue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Weidenfeld,_Baron_Weidenfeld
A staunch Zionist, Weidenfeld was deeply involved in supporting Israel.