• davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      The literal terrorist groups are the Israeli settler-colonial genocidaires and their enabler, the United States.

      Guess who designated Hamas and Hezbollah as terrorists: the very same terrorist states, Israel and the US.

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        What are you going to tell me next that Osama bin Laden was also a freedom fighter and 9/11 was justified?

        All of you have shit for brains if you think Islamic fundamentalists are progressive freedom fighters while the entire rest of the world is in the wrong.

        If you like these groups so much then why don’t you go live in the countries they run or ones that are run according to similar ideologies?

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          9/11 was a false flag dude. Osama literally said he didn’t do it on video and later a fat version of him said he did it. Hamas aren’t Islamic fundamentalists btw. Literally watch any video from Palestine. Islamic fundamentalists are the ones the US and Israel are backing. ISIS. ISIS-K. Al-quaeda. White helmets. All of them US or Israel funded or backed. Ah and how can I forget about ETIM.

          If you like these groups so much then why don’t you go live in the countries they run or ones that are run according to similar ideologies?

          The US is destabilizing ALL of them, besides the comprador ones like UAE and Saudi Arabia. I don’t think I would mind living in Iran or a non-destabilized Lebanon. Indonesia and Malaysia area also decent places to live if you have money (relatively).

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            9/11 was a false flag dude. Osama literally said he didn’t do it on video and later a fat version of him said he did it.

            I have no desire to argue with brain dead conspiracy theorists any longer.

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            conspiracy theory final boss. Also you seem to be Jihadist so you prolly woundt Wana uae or Saudi arabia

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          What are you going to tell me next that Osama bin Laden was also a freedom fighter and 9/11 was justified?

          Why are you bringing up someone who is nothing like Hamas or Hezbollah? This is a strawman.

          All of you have shit for brains if you think Islamic fundamentalists are progressive freedom fighters while the entire rest of the world is in the wrong.

          First of all, no one is saying that they are “progressive”—whatever that might mean—and second of all “the entire rest of the world” isn’t “progressive.” This is a bullshit pinkwashing argument. Against the pinkwashing of Israel. If genocide isn’t progressive, then neither the US nor Israel is either.

          If you like these groups so much then why don’t you go live in the countries they run or ones that are run according to similar ideologies?

          If you like it so much why don’t you go live there?” What are you, twelve? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

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        Hamas is not a terrorist group, the IDF is. What the fuck is it with this both sides bullshit?

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          They both can be, but Hamas is a terrorist organization that has committed terrorist attacks. Al Qaeda is terrorist group and committed many terrorist attacks, but the U.S. war on terrorism killed and displaced many innocents in Afghanistan, Iraq and other middle eastern countries.

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            They both can be, but Hamas is a terrorist organization that has committed terrorist attacks.

            Yeah, according to the US and Israel—which, I cannot stress enough, are terrorist states—Hamas is a terrorist organization, but that does not make it so. Western governments and Western corporate media can designate anyone to be anything, but that doesn’t make it so. They are not the arbiters of truth, they are propagandists for empire.

            Palestinian right of armed resistance

            [UN] General Assembly resolution A/RES/38/17 (22/11/1983) stated that it “Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for their independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial domination, apartheid and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle”.

            Furthermore, As an Occupier, Israel Has No Right to ‘Self-Defense’.

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          since you think literal terrorist groups are so progressive

          That doesn’t make Hamas and Hazbollah saints

          Are you familiar with the term ‘strawman’

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      Op didn’t claim that literal terrorist groups are so progressive. You’re swatting a strawman.

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      Suppose you’re a gay Palestinian. Who do you think is more likely to kill you: Hamas or the IDF?