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    19 days ago

    I’m not sure what your point about Schröder and Merkel is, I don’t support them, I don’t like them, I have frequently called them out on their bullshit politics.

    And you still miss the point, even though I clearly stated it already. I am of this opinion because they did not recognize Germany’s sovereignty and chose to commit an act of war against an ally. Two things that Russia and Nazi Germany did to Ukraine and Poland btw. You try to justify Ukraine’s aggression towards Germany by the same bullshit arguments that Russia uses to attack Ukraine, not respecting their right of sovereignty, that they are not allowed to make their own decisions, like joining NATO for example. In the West, disagreements like this are supposed to be solved through politics and diplomacy, not through hostilities.

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      19 days ago

      Did I not say bombing NS was a mistake?

      I am just pointing out you have no right to pretend to be noble when you’re own leadership de defacto supported and enabled russian imperialism.

      What exactly do you want me to say?

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        19 days ago

        Of course I have. I never voted for them, nor agreed with them. So why are you telling me I have no right to not just tell them off, but also other’s who do the wrong thing?

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          19 days ago

          Because you were saying that “Poland and Ukraine are not ready for EU”, yet you don’t take the same maximalist, hyper critical attitude to the Germany leadership.

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            19 days ago

            Germany did not commit an act of war against Poland or Ukraine, let alone did not recognize their sovereignty, so it’s hardly if at all comparable. Germany just did stupid policy that failed, which is always easy to criticize in hindsight.

            And if you’re so critical of NS, what’s your opinion on the Polish pipelines coming from Russia? Or the Ukrainian ones? It wasn’t so much about morality when it comes to NS, there was rather a lot of criticism for it purely because it would bypass the transit tariffs that Germany had to pay for the import, which also benefited all the countries who then imported from Germany.

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              19 days ago

              This is not an act of war and no one sees it this way.

              An act of war is ballistic missiles falling on your cities and tanks rolling in. It’s honestly pathetic of you to trivialize this.

              You probably recognize this on same level, but you see too self-absorbed to be willing to publicly admit this.

              You should stick to ruminations about how “Poles and Ukrainian are unfit” and “they are like the russians, anyway!” I think we will both agree that this is a good reflection of your character.

              I am done here.

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                Purely because Germany chooses not to. It would very much be a legitimate casus beli if they saw it differently.

                It’s honestly pathetic of you to trivialize this.

                You probably recognize this on same level, but you see too self-absorbed to be willing to publicly admit this.

                How ironic.

                You should stick to ruminations about how “Poles and Ukrainian are unfit” and “they are like the russians, anyway!” I think we will both agree that this is a good reflection of your character.

                Whatever mental gymnastics and wild fantasies make you feel better.

                I am done here.

                Yes, since you ran out of any sort of arguments and are just projecting at this point we’re indeed done here, and anywhere else in the future as well. I really don’t need to hold pointless internet arguments with blind hypocrites.