• Schlemmy@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    I would like to know how these politicians feel about being surveilled 24/7? Because they aren’t excluded.

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      The European Ministry whants to exclude themselves and europeans intelligence agencies (europool) from the surveillance. The Ministry is the only instance that’s have talked about excluding.

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          Looks that way I don’t understand how they are thinking. It is pretty obvious that they dont trust thorn or other lobbyists so they know the risks.

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      As I understand it, it’s exactly like the online safety bill in the uk. but I’m not that well-read on online safety bill.

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      The answer is forever. Even if chat control dies for good there will be some other initiative, just as there were many before this one. Maintaining your rights and freedoms unfortunately requires constant vigilance.

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    Then what’s the point of “encrypted messages”? And even if this passes I’m confident that Signal, Matrix, p2p and other similar privacy platform won’t comply. But hey if they do I’ll start sending encrypted files

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      The hilarity of all of this is that this week the US government started warning citizens to use these platforms now because even the backdoors that were created for law enforcement to monitor suspects have been compromised, and now the telephone networks are absolutely infested with foreign hackers and the cost and effort to get them out may be too high and take too long.

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        Swedish FRA (like USA’s NSA) have done the same.

        But Swedish government doesn’t listen and whant to enforce laws like HDA (hack Swedish devices with 0days). Realtime AI face recognition on public places. Force services like social media, isp, Telecom companies and more to save all traffic for up to 2 years incase of criminal activity.

        Then we have Eu’s “going dark” project that aims on attacking encryption.

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    I will just host a matrix instance. Decentralization is the future.

    Also, why don’t they realize that avoiding chat control is soo easy. Unless it isn’t actually meant to prevent crimes

    Here is an interesting article on how stupid the chat control is. It’s in German, but probably easy to translate.