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Liars ARE monsters. Maybe not like literally, but they are monsters nonetheless.
The other lesson is that no matter how far you walk in life, it’s just the same background looped over and over again.
You gotta know the movie rule tho. If it’s a movie, animated or not the monster is real
The bad guys in every episode aren’t monsters, they’re liars.
In reality, they’re both.
Life is full of mysteries, yeah
But there are answers out there
And they won’t be found
By people sitting around
Looking serious
And saying ‘Isn’t life mysterious?’
Let’s sit here and hope
Let’s call up the fucking Pope
Let’s go watch Oprah
Interview Deepak ChopraIf you wanna watch telly, you should watch Scooby Doo
That show was so cool
Because every time there was a church with a ghoul
Or a ghost in a school
They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The fucking janitor or the dude who ran the waterslide
Because throughout history
Every mystery
Ever solved
Has turned out to be
Not magic- Tim Minchin, Storm
And then they undermined that message that one time they made the zombies real, and probably a couple other times I don’t remember.
Every movie essentially involves the supernatural to some extent.
To be fair it started with the Scrappy Doo series. A lot of those villains were real.
Explains why the first live action movie features him so prominently
That and to cash in on everyone hating his guts
Don’t get me started on Kiss being aliens with transformation sequences.
I mean, that’s just Kiss lore. I’m not kidding, there’s KISS lore
Also in the show that is pictured here
Wow, Scooby Doo must be “woke” or whatever the kids say these days
Everything you liked as a kid seems woke and politicized when you were a tiny kid because tiny kids are too dumb to think on purpose.
I’ll say, though, I was old enough to be mad at the James Gunn-written Scooby adaptations because they couldn’t resist doing actual supernatural stuff and lost this angle entirely.
And then those got reappraised as not being garbage when THOSE kids grew up and a lot of the newer stuff went with that angle as well.
You being too dumb to think on purpose doesn’t mean you’re not learning, for better and worse. I used to think that wasn’t the case when I was a kid because I was too dumb.
The hex girls tho
…the “kids” in question being Republicans.
It’s fine, I also respond like this.
Well, you’d be surprised. Going through uni I definitely got to see a lot of left-of-centre young adults get through semiotics and discouse analysis courses and have an absolute fit at the realization that a bunch of the cool stuff they liked as kids had a clear right-wing bent.
I mean, they all had a lot of time to get attached to Back to the Future and Die Hard before they were forced to think about it too hard. Learning! Twice!
I still can’t tell if the original response thought I was actually calling Scooby Doo woke 😭
Interested in hearing about the right wing bent of Bttf and die hard
I would lie if I said I wasn’t baiting a little bit, but man, see? Cuts both ways.
Die Hard is extremely obvious. I mean, the whole movie is about this guy finding that his wife suddenly has a job, makes more money than he does and may be attractive to smarter, richer people, but then fate conspires to make his blue collar streetsmarts and prepper attitudes having him save the day for the foppish yuppies. The entire movie ends when they throw the eurotrash rich thief out of a building by literally unshackling Holly from the bonus gift her company job gave her, then wrapping her up in a comfort blanket and taking her home. The movie also finds time to clearly establish that all public servants are idiots except for street level cops.
Back to the Future is subtler, but also pretty straightforward. Kid thinks life with middle class parents in the 80s sucks, goes back to the 50s, which turn out to be as ideal as expected but also somehow cooler in a very 80s kind of way, teaches his dad self-assertion and comes back to the future to find he’s now upper class and has a 4x4. It’s a lot less hardcore, but the reagonomics are running underneath the whole thing. I’d take that it’s accidental, because the same team went much more leftward in Roger Rabbit, so I think it’s just that a lot of the cultural white noise of the mid-80s is baked into the assumptions. And the nostalgia is a massive driving force of conservatism anyway. BTTF is idolizing this “fifteighties” imagery the same way Grease was to suggest there is a perfect past to return to. Kind of in the way Stranger Things and a bunch of other stuff does to the 80s.
That’s maybe the most fun part of breaking down BTTF. The iconic slivers of the film set in the 80s are supposed to show it being run down, realistic and disappointingly drab by comparison.
Also, Lybian terrorists stealing plutonium but being so incompetent they get tricked by Doc and defeated by Marty. That’s a very time-specific one, like Rambo praising the Taliban.
Dare I ask you to go further?
What’s an extreme example of a crypto-rightwing-coded-80s-flick?
I don’t know, man, Die Hard is pretty far out there.
The Rambo and Rocky sequels are what they are as well. They are almost naive about it in a way that supports ironic appreciation, though.
Dirty Harry tracks, but that’s back in the early 70s. I never went deep enough into the sequels to see if it got really bad down the line.
I’ve heard some stuff about Field of Dreams, but I don’t think I’ve watched that in one sitting.
I don’t know it’s often the action stuff. Your Commandos and Death Wishes and so on. Does stuff like Red Dawn and Invasion USA even count as “crypto”? Those are pretty overt.
If you let me break the time frame I will say that I think The Incredibles flies over people’s heads as being aggressively conservative. Forrest Gump used to, but I think people got wise to it over time. Another Zemeckis joint, too. Maybe it’s Roger Rabbit that was the accident.
I mean, they all had a lot of time to get attached to Back to the Future and Die Hard
What’s so right wing about those? Honestly, it’s been a while but I don’t really remember any clear examples.
Somebody else just asked, so see above.
BTTF I can get, but Die Hard flying under people’s radar is always surprising.
Thanks! Today I learned I don’t really remember any details about die hard…
Hah! It happens. That’s when the shock comes.
I’ll say that it’s still a great movie. I love it. That’s something modern culture warriors just won’t acknowledge. You can engage with a piece of art or entertainment pushing politics you despise. It’s fine.
