• NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    It’s not a “new red line”. This is something that has already been tested in the courts because of a law written during WWII. It’s only allowed in very narrow circumstances.

    For instance:
    If someone serves in a foreign military/government and they still have citizenship and it can be proven that it was voluntary.

    The same law that allowed for that also attempted to allow for denaturalization in cases where someone:

    • Deserted military service during wartime.
    • Voted in a foreign election.
      But these were both found to be unconstitutional.

    Legal Eagle talked about those cases here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS-for7pUxU&t=980s

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      7 hours ago

      Dear Lord the amount of judges ignoring clearly written law to support slavery for war 🙄

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      9 hours ago

      I watched this video awhile ago about 3 Yale professors leaving the U.S. because of the rise in fascism.

      From that video, Marci Shore, Historian of Totalitarianism:

      There’s an expression in Polish: “I found myself at the very bottom. And then I heard knocking from below.” In Russian that gets abbreviated to “dna ne sushchestvuet” - “there is no bottom”. What starts to matter, is not what is concealed, but what has been normalized. There’s no limit to the depravity, and the sadism, and the cruelty that we are watching now play out in real time.

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          12 hours ago

          A lone wolf looking for a pack is not a lone wolf, but a lost one.

          To be clear, I’m only talking about wolves here.

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            12 hours ago

            5,000 (± some) dedicated people who communicated well with each other and others. Who were willing to just stay in the streets until the government changed. The only one demand given: the president had to step down.

            I’ve seen revolutions start with less, but America is large.

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              The President isn’t the problem. He’s certainly “a” problem, but let’s not pretend that Vance is going to be any better.

              Get rid of all the corrupt Republicans (redundant phrase), and you will still have MAGA, the silicon valley tech bros, a corrupt financial system, white/Christian nationalists, and the military industrial complex.

              Then we have the Democrats who have proven themselves over and over again to be incapable of standing up against any of these groups.

              Whatever we protest for, any result worth the effort has to address the systemic failures that led to the Trump presidency. Anything less is performative at best.

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                So, I’m just sort of typing without thinking about it much. But Trump will never step down, it’s an impossible demand, but it’s incendiary enough for orange face to not ignore it. This remains in the press cycle because it’s personal to him, there will be constant agitation by police and agencies against the protesters who just stay or regroup.

                Assuming the original protesters stay the course, this will attract more and more participants because Trump himself, and the gop, will keep it in the news.

                This is a positive growth cycle; eventually the demand will be the entire White House vacate when there enough protestors, and it’s now a revolution, peaceful it may be

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                The “Heritage” Foundation and all the tax-favored entities like it (incl. “religious” ones) will need to be dealt with.

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                the democratic party leadership are not just incapable, they are not on our side. They are servants of the rich.

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      Trumps already doing it. Calling to deport musk back to South Africa because musk thinks the big beautiful bill is bad

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      12 hours ago

      We need an inverse lottery. The top 100 most wealthy Americans are automatically added to a pool and one is drawn at random each year. Then we confiscate everything they own, put them in the street, and see if they can get rich again.