- cross-posted to:
- games@hexbear.net
- cross-posted to:
- games@hexbear.net
The post says AUR builds are being blocked and soon Linux support will be dropped entirely.
Explanation: https://lemmy.world/comment/18532107
tl;dr dude is a bit of a control freak
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That’s insulting to the paper.
Not to break a few illusions of scholastic integrity, but when making a doctoral thesis, you’re not there to make friends. Social skills drop as you go up the academic ladder, and it’s designed this way.
I’m not saying I sympathize either, but society doesn’t make it easier for masters to earn their doctorates. A simple “Who was your day, wanna go grab tea, hey let’s unwind at xyz” does resharpen social skills like you won’t believe.
“Who was your day” lol
“Who was your day”
Bro that’s how you skillsmax
From the linked comment it sounds like there was a license change in the projects history. I’m surprised the various distro packagers didn’t just collaborate on a renamed fork, unless there are more actively developed emulators still under a FLOSS licence?
Edit yep it was GPLv3 about 11 months ago: https://github.com/stenzek/duckstation/commit/7f4e5d55dbdef5a50e0aa4994f667fb03d854928
Someone raised the point you can’t change from GPLv3 if someone else touched the code and they don’t approve the change (unless you rewrite everything yourself). I’m not an expert but considering v3 is to avoid proprietary software more than v2, I would be very amused if this guy gets forced to admit it’s always been GPLv3 and he wasn’t allowed to set a restrictive license.
I believe there is a fork from the last GPLv3 version called SwanStation.
Dev doesn’t allow packages of his open source project, people keep creating packages, dev stops support for the OS entirely.
jwz & Igara Studio S.A. had the exact same issue with distros maintainers, that they were forced to disallow QA testing and logging for distro related situations that really isn’t their focus.
Distro makers need to dogfood their own packages, their own support system, and their testing, separate of the original software maker.
Analogy for commoners:
This is like asking a bidet seat maker to fix your entire toilet/bathroom.
Like no, get plumbers, workers, and a designer to make your dream toilet. Leave the seat maker alone.spoiler
You still got to clean the toilet every week.
Seat makers are not janitors.My take on a better analogy:
The bidet maker is pissed because people complain to him that their bidet is leaking or has cracks. He’s annoyed at a distribution/installation company because they fumbled, so he’ll handle installation himself but only to the houses he approves.
Oh, and the bidets are free and nobody gets paid a cent.
Sure I’ll accept this analogy irt stenzek’s justified reaction. But this part is particularly wrong:
so he’ll handle installation himself but only to the houses he approves.
He doesn’t 1) install, 2) approves any bowl, 3) or should he. He can refuse to make bidet seats any time, but prefers wașiki seats instead.
bidets are free and nobody gets paid a cent.
This is the damn crux🎯. GAMERS, PLEASE DONATE AS IF IT WAS REAL SOFTWARE YOU’RE BUYING. You don’t know how easily you can solve this by having paid workers fixing all this.
He doesn’t 1) install, 2) approves any bowl, 3) or should he. He can refuse to make bidet seats any time, but prefers wașiki seats instead.
He directly provides releases for Windows x64/ARM64, Linux x86_64/ARM32/ARM64 (in AppImage format), and macOS. He also explicitly forbids modifications, and since he considers “pre-configured settings” to be modifications, and this is basically barring any other distribution.
So while ultimately you’re right in that he doesn’t install it himself, he provides a super-simple “do it yourself” kit for people who live in apartments, while making anyone else who lives in a house have to assemble it from a million separate pieces themselves.
Note that I’m sympathetic, and I don’t know what the solution here is, but hopefully everyone figures it out…
Ok, then I’m wrong. The seat maker prefers wașiki, bidets, and flachspüler seats, but bidet users are at most risk of losing support, because Arch bidets stop dogfooding their bidet hinges correctly.
Agreed on the last 2 paragraphs.
make free open source software
people repackage for their distros
get mad when you receive support requests for outdated packages
change license to prevent further repackages
Linux users continue using old version to avoid restrictive license change
Continue to receive support requests for old packages before license change
crash out
Am I doing this right?
And you can’t even fork it
From the looks of it the version most people use (the one that comes in package managers) was already forked awhile ago from the version the dev did allow to be forked, and the official version hasn’t been used in package managers for awhile, because the second version was under a read only license and distros therefore couldn’t package it.
Sure you can. Absolutely nothing actually prevents it.
The licence is not FOSS its its creative commons no derivatives meaning no forks its a source available licence
License doesn’t allow you to do it
Who cares? The source is there. Do it anyways. DeCSS was technically illegal for ages in the US. VLC (not hosted in the US) still contained it to play DVDs.
“Not allowed” and “Can’t” are two VERY different things.
There’s a bunch of protections in fair use things that actually allowed or made that a very grey area, so end users could do it.
This is a bit pendantic, but GitHub’s TOS allows users to fork your public repositories, regardless of its license.
You couldn’t modify the new code under the dipshit license, but you can do whatever you want to the slightly older code under the good license.
Two things can be true at the same time:
- I am grateful you are using your time to develop free and open source software without gaining anything in return.
- Being pissed at people asking for support for something you didn’t make, do not give you a free pass on being an asshole by changing your license
it is okay for a FOSS project to start with one person.
but if it is growing and there is still only one persons doing most commits, that is a yellow flag. sign to look at alternatives.
i am speaking as both user and maintainer.
He even rewrote parts of the code that weren’t by him in order to remove the GPL license.
I think I’ve been using pcsxr for too long to care.
Is there anything that makes duckstation worth using over the other psx emulators?
Apparently it’s really good. I think I have it on my steam deck. But I recently just dusted off a ps3 (which has a ps1 built in) made it network ready and viola.
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Retroarch keeping the core anyway, probably not the best ps1 core even if it dissappear.
I prefer Beetle PSX (the non-hw version). Very accurate emulation, even compared to Duckstation. Not as great for enhancements, though.
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ITT: entitled users who believe that FOSS devs deserve to work themselves to death so they can continue to illegally pirate games while simultaneously complain about licensing law.
it’s disgusting. doesn’t matter if he’s not a nice guy. he’s still right to set limits on what he is willing to support and it’s not Arch(and now all of Linux).
don’t like it? fork it and maintain a new version of it, call it “corkscrew” for the weird shape of ducks pebis.