Doesn’t matter I found bots and cheaters. Kernel level anticheat is nothing more than a security theater
Yep. There’s money to be made coding cheats. They’ll never be stopped.There’s absolutely no shortage of people willing to cheat and shit on other players. “giT gUd KiD, LeRn HoW tOo Aim!1!1!” I’ve got over 3k hours in BF2042 and easily the top 3-5 players give or take on either team are using some form of cheat, whether it be a Cronus or an actual software cheat, they’re obvious as hell. Like most fps games, they only keep the cheats to just enough of a minimum that they can delete cheat discussions from the forums and the community to lick the boot, “stfu hackusations!” One look at the leaderboards and showing hit%/time and the top 10-15% of players should all be banned.
I’m confused. I thought the last mainline BF title was Battlefield 4? (And then after that came BF1, and then that failure BF2042.)
Did they skip a number, or was Battlefield 5 just so fucking bad that I blanked it from my memory? I honestly can’t tell. I haven’t enjoyed a Battlefield game since Bad Company 2.
Just a reminder that Valorant is spyware
Bold of you to assume anyone who has Valorant installed wants to play BF6
This is wrong. You can’t run both at the same time but there’s nothing stopping you from having valorant installed
If there’s a game that ever needed stringent anticheat, it’s Battlefield.
This beta has been a whole clownfest.
But it at least stops cheating, right?
Right?Just like DRM, the people hurt are the paying customers not the pirates.
What helps solve all of this is not playing online hype games. Single player ftw.
I will always prefer multiplayer games for the simple reason that single-player AI is stupid and predictable. Why does every enemy behave like every single other enemy in literally every game? Is it really that much more difficult to program enemies to behave in various, unpredictable ways? Until that day comes, I will always prefer my enemies to be human.
How about games that dont run a anticheat deep into the kernel or Server side anticheat.
Like SCP:SL(server side) and TF2 (i think both Client and Server side) does thisHow else would I get my hourly dose of homophobic insults on voice from teenagers with barely broken voices?!
Not to mention being frequently informed that my 70 year old mom is a prostitute.
If I try and simulate the multiplayer experience on a single player game by insulting myself, it’s just not the same.
In 400+ hours of Helldivers 2 I have only had a handful of groups with people talking shit in voice or type chat. The co-op nature of the game probably helps with that.
Hopefully this moves people to view kernel level anti-cheat as malicious and as nefarious as other malware.
It should also be noted cheats can and have bypassed both BF6 and Valorants anti-cheat anyway.
Who could have predicted that hanging ten conflicting kernel-level anti-cheat installations might cause compatibility problems?
The installations aren’t the problem. Trying to run them at the same time is the problem, but why would anyone be loading more than one game at a time?
Valorant’s anticheat always runs in the background, even when the game isn’t booted. There’s a reason people call the game spyware.
Not sure if you’re being serious, but at least Riot Games’ anti-cheat Vanguard always wants to be running in the background, whether the game is running or not. Sure, you can stop it, but if you then want to play something that requires it, you have to reboot. There’s no manual way to start it.
One of the reasons I decided to drop Valorant.
Hm - arguably, that actually puts Riot more at fault here.
It’s a scummy environment either way, but at least if Battlefield is shutting down anticheat when you close the game, that’s a small step above.
Oh I think they’re both at fault. Fuck EA/Battlefield for the SecureBoot requirement too.
In fact, fuck all games with kernel level anti-cheats.
but why would anyone be loading more than one game at a time?
Maybe you’re virtualizing it for multiple users. Sure, that might sound like a weird thing to do, but that’s mostly because shit like this makes it harder than it ought to be.
i routinely have 3 games running in the background, sometimes 4. Different strokes and all that.
The anticheat runs all the time unless you specifically exit it and requires a reboot of the computer for the exit to take, the reverse is true to turn it back on as well.
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This is false and Eurogamer covered it already. You cannot run both at the same time, but both can be installed. The Valorant anti-cheat just cannot be active (it can be turned off at any time if it is running and requires a reboot before the game can be played if disabled).
https://www.eurogamer.net/you-cant-play-battlefield-6-and-valorant-at-the-same-time-heres-why
Honestly that’s not much better. I shouldn’t be expected to reboot my computer to play a game.
As a linux gamer, I agree…
As far as I understand it, you’d need to reboot only if you 1. Had Valorant running 2. Stopped Valorant’s anticheat manually 3. Want to play Valorant again afterwards.
It’s still stupid, yeah. But workarounds are usually that
Valorant is riot games… Not valve
Oops, autocorrect. Let me edit that
not my problem…these aren’t games worth spending a dime on.
If you consciously install a rootkit to play a game, you deserve whatever comes after.
Most people have zero understanding of what it is, what the implications are, or even that they’re installing it when they press play.
