70 million people voted for Trump twice. They cheer at ICE kidnappings, call racists saints, and such. The reality is that a lot less people are actually good (meaning they care genuinely about the well being of others) than this post makes it seem.
See I hard coped the “Believe that most people are good” thing, and then I saw numerical data that proves that most people (in the USA), in fact, not only want me to die; but hate most people not like them enough to support a sleazy dictator wanna-be and support a fascist regime, just to destroy the lives of other people who they see as “competition” or “lesser” or “undesirables”.
Believe that most people are good.
I’d love to if they didn’t show their ass IRL as often as online.
I used to believe people were good, but over the years I’ve just seen worse and worse behavior from the general public to the point that the only way I could possibly believe most people were fundamentally good would be to reject reality.
Yeah, talk to enough conservatives IRL and you’ll know this is bullshit.
Selfish, evil human beings. Whether they realize it or not.
Except for the elites, I think it’s more constructive to think of them as brainwashed by an ancient meme; potentially redeemable.
Emphasis on ‘potentially’. Don’t waste too much time on them, some of them get off on watching you uselessly spend your time and energy and sanity on them. Brainwashing doesn’t work like it does in comic books. These are people who were already willing to and capable of rationalizing putting kids into cages and the ‘brainwashing’ just gave them an easy explanation.
It’s like a person who has committed rape. Even if they come out later as an anti-rape activist and they’re publicly remorseful and they do a lot of work to make up for the harm they caused you still aren’t gonna leave them alone with your sister.
Nah, I’ve talked to a lot of republicans in real life and almost all of them are just fundamentally bad people who derive joy from hurting and oppressing others.
I legitimately know someone exactly like that. It blows my mind how anybody could be so sociopathic, no human compassion whatsoever, even for the people supposedly nearest & dearest to him.
I think the belief that most people are good actually causes people to attack the ones calling out bad behavior, rather than calling out the bad behavior itself, which is a major contributing cause of many societal issues. Some people are truly just bad people, and we need to learn to accept this. I did after the last few years in politics. Can’t be an algorithm when they elected the president. “Stay positive” is bad advice when you’re trying to accurately identify and solve a problem where things aren’t positive.
Does it matter that most people are good if most people in power aren’t, and they have an army of similar-minded people following their orders?
Because there’s more of us than there are of them, so perhaps we can do something about it.
How could most people be good if they voted for the the pedo king three times?
Most people did not vote which is a different kind of bad
You’d probably be shocked at how ignorant most Americans are. See those man-in-the-street interviews Mamdani had with NYC Trump voters? They seemed to know nothing about Trump, just had vibes.
If you get your news and political views from FaceBook, you’re going to be ignorant as hell. And if you throw Fox News in, you’ll come out knowing even less.
On top of all that, over half of Americans top out at a 6th-grade reading level. 20% are flat out illiterate. Can’t find the stat again, but an appalling number of us can’t follow along in a novel.
We can’t fix anything in this country until we fix education. How can we even speak to people about climate change, collapsing ecosystems, repeating 20th century history, anything at all, when they don’t have a basic education?
I totally agree that most Trump voters simply know nothing about him. I maintain an acquaintance with a Trump supporter kind of just out of curiosity and they know incredibly little about him as a person, or the things he’s doing as president. They’re generally just unaware. He didn’t even know that Trump abused emergency powers to bypass Congress to impose tariff taxes on Americans.
But that doesn’t mean they aren’t a bad person. Not engaging with the democracy you live in and ensuring that it remains healthy makes you a bad person, in my opinion. Too many people sacrificed their lives to give us democracy and not engaging responsibly is unbelievably disrespectful and makes you a bad person. Voting for someone without knowing anything about them makes you a bad person.
How I wish that was true.
I’m with you. I mean, its probably the bubble I live in, but I’m so tired of trying to talk to my friends and family about all of this but I’m dismissed as being paranoid or they tell me that Biden was just as bad or frankly most often just some dismissive joke in response.
I’m guessing about as many people care about this as there are who support all of it. The remaining 40-50% is just checked out and thinks this is just politics as usual. That’s my impression anyway.
This, more than anything, is why I stick to the Fediverse. There’s some negativity here, but it’s organic, and generally not being conjured out of thin air to get me to buy shit.
When I log on to FB to check my DM’s, it’s very obvious what the algo is doing, and I can’t be bothered to indulge it.
Not with this government, 3rd world countries are installing solar while our leader is canceling solar and i cannot get panels
Oooh, and here I thought the GOP was a bunch of Nazis fucking children. Guess it’s just the algorithm fucking children and opening concentration camps.
We get it, you disagree with OP. Have you considered your comment may come across as a level of unhinged and impotent rhetoric that only moreso proves OP’s point? I hope you find peace soon, and I absolutely relate with your distaste of the current atrocities✌️
So are they atrocities or not? Because you seem awfully chill about the whole thing, like they’re mild inconveniences that aren’t actively ruining millions of lives
hope you find peace soon, and I absolutely relate with your distaste of the current atrocities✌️
There’s nothing outside the text. Whatever you’re reading into this is strictly your fantasy. I’m not denying we’re in a nightmare, I’m just old and stuck protecting the few that depend on me.
You Republicans never cease to make me laugh.
The pubbers are baseless as all hell now–what makes you think I’m one of em homeboy?
So which is it? Are these atrocities happening, or is it just the algorithm pushing that narrative? You can’t have it both ways (it’s real, btw).
Or just stay away from algorithmic social media, or maybe i mean ad-based for-profit algorithmic social media.
Lemmy doesn’t seem to have a particular bent toward conflict the way that Facebook does (I know they’re different in a lot of ways). Bluesky doesn’t seem to have it, either, although we could still be in the “bait” phase before they “switch.”
You have to discipline Algo like a rigid schoolmarm. You will show me lo-fi cyberpunk synthwave. Darker. Darker!
If you’re looking for recent news tempered by the context of US history, look up Prof. Heather Cox Richardson and her offerings. Also MSW Media (specifically Daily Beans ) will at least commiserate with you when you hear the bad news, and will offer some hopeful insights.
Mainstream media is not your friend. Don’t give them time except to verify news you think is important enough to verify, and then use multiple sources and cull the specific consistent facts.
not to mention all the troll bots. If you are arguing online, theres a good chance its just a bot/
I know it’s scary
