With just over 24 hours before the government is set to shutdown, Donald Trump and congressional leaders from both parties emerged from a high-stakes White House meeting on Monday with no agreement, setting the stage for large swaths of the federal government to close after midnight Wednesday.

The impasse came after closed-door talks between the four top congressional leaders and Trump in the Oval Office, where lawmakers appeared to trade blame but make little progress towards a deal. “There are still large differences between us,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer told reporters after the meeting, claiming that Republicans refused to engage on their core demands around health care and restoring previous funding cuts.

“Their bill has not one iota of Democratic input,” he added, taking aim at a House-passed seven-week stopgap funding bill that Senate Democrats rejected last week. “That is never how we’ve done this before.”

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      It’s a budget, he needs 50 votes and there’s 53 senators with a R by their names…

      If there’s a shutdown it’s cuz trump ordered it.

      Schumer “negotiating” just makes it easier for idiots to blame it on Dems.

      Mainstream media at large is acting like budget reconciliation isn’t a thing…

      The procedure overrides the Senate’s filibuster rules, which may otherwise require a sixty-vote supermajority for passage. Bills described as reconciliation bills can pass the Senate by a simple majority of fifty-one votes or fifty votes plus the vice president’s as the tie-breaker.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconciliation_(United_States_Congress)

      trump doesn’t need a single D vote in the House or Senate to pass a budget, he just doesn’t want to

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      They have the majority. Should have told them to make a deal with themselves if they actually give a shit.

      But controlled opposition, doing controlled opposition things, to maintain the illusion of democracy.

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    Americans will never miss their water until the well runs dry.

    It’s not that Americans are all racist, or all ignorant… it’s that enough of them don’t spare a thought to think things through until it effects them personally.

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      Welcome to life in America. Where intelligence and common sense aren’t so common. People will literally kill you so they can happily vote against their own interests.

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        Truth.

        Living in Canada is like having crazy downstairs neighbours but for some reason one of our roommates keeps inviting them upstairs.

        I have not been to the USA in a decade. Literally the only reason I’ll ever, ever, return is to visit Casa Bonita in Colorado… ideally on a layover.

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              We sprung for the “premium seating.” It was only maybe $10 more per person, but you get seated along the diving cliff so you can see the show better. And because we were one of the last tables of the night, we got lucky and ended up with the best table in the place, right next to/above the cliff divers. I’m not really sure how best to describe it, so it’s a good thing I have video evidence 😅

              (Also if there’s a better way than Google to share these let me know. They’re apparently too long for imgur)

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                fuckin eh. ty!

                but that link might doxx u eh. (can see your full name)

                oh wait just saw your username.

                sadly youtube.

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          Omg, I tried to get in there with almost a month planning ahead. NOPE.

          You may need to find a local with whatever lifetime gold membership they sold. Bribe them to take you or something.

          I had no idea it was so difficult to get in there. I signed up for the email where they will open a few times here and there, but as soon as the mail is sent, the reservations are gobbled up by the bots.

          I wish you all the luck.

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            It’s gonna be 3 years at least. I doubt I’d be getting the full experience visiting during the tariffs anyways.

            thx for the heads up!

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      This is true of people in general. While comfortable enough, or able to rationalize the discomfort away, people tend to not want to change. It takes a large shove to get people to act. Having a huge and diverse country with lots of built-in disconnects doesn’t help.

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        Having a huge and diverse country with lots of built-in disconnects doesn’t help.

        Are you saying that diversity in a disconnected society can create more opportunities for conflict?

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          It can, especially when there are systems in place to play upon those differences and fan flames, even create fires that wouldn’t naturally erupt. Diversity is powerful, but can be used for good or bad purposes.

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    the government is set to shutdown

    1. Set to shut down (verb)
    2. Set for shutdown (noun)

    You need to pick a lane. Please tell me time.com editors have at least the brains god gave a gnat.

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      TBF it is their job attend legislative sessions. I agree with the spirit of your comment.

      To answer your question… clearly the weren’t trying that hard.

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        I disagree. I would argue that their job is to represent their constituents. Sometimes that might involve attending legislative sessions. Other times that might involve intentionally not engaging with the opposition party, if that is in the best interests of the constituents.

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          In this case, not engaging would mean intentionally choosing to shut down a government that has services that directly impact those constituents. Meeting with them is the bare minimum of their job.

          I can’t imagine Trump had any good faith negotiations so it’s a fool’s effort, but it’s their job to try, nonetheless.

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          Well now you just sound impossible to please and completely ignorant of your own civic system.

          Sorry.

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            I’m neither. I want the opposition party to be an opposition party when its important to do so, like it is now.

            That means not trying to find common ground with fascists.