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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/1338851
Archived version: https://archive.ph/yDjTx
Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20230811193345/https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-fire-all-regional-military-recruitment-chiefs-zelenskiy-2023-08-11/
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You’re not answering questions again because you don’t have any answers. If your Ukrainian friends are making excuses for a government run by Nazis, I have some bad news for you.
Why would I need to answer, you already know them all silly goose :3
Your assumptions are divined correctly, as you willed them to be the explanation! Didn’t you know that’s how it worked? You are the main character after all.
You willing random strangers you don’t know to be Nazi’s is totally not a a bad reflection on you, nope, that’s not possible. You can rest assured you just called strangers you don’t know Nazi’s, and your hate for them is therefore justified. Now rest at ease warrior of divination, your war is victorious.
Now I will go onwards and try to keep hidden my true feelings for Roma people, which is sooo much harder now that you’ve proven it to be a lie :(
Damn you American Hero, I was no match for you and your powers of willing answers into existence! And also willing your hatred to people you don’t know in existence, but hey, what’s a few accidental causalities of war for an American right? :D
Did I hallucinate the statue which the coup government in Ukraine constructed in Lviv to honor a Nazi collaborator?
Alrighty, before you make assumptions as you tend to do, I’ll say Banderas is a despicable person. But let’s talk about monuments to him.
You know the stele to Banderas in Lviv was constructed in 2007 right? If you are talking about another one, go ahead and link it. 2007 is long before this “western coup” happened (and it started construction in like 2004?). Why did Yanukovych allow this? Why did Putin protect Yanukovych afterwards, he decreed Banderas a “hero”. Sounds like harboring a Nazi to me.
But even then, let’s say what you say is right, does that mean all Ukrainians are Nazis because one government build a monument? Does that mean the average person deserves to be bombed by Russia? Does it make right the broken families I’ve had the displeasure of interacting with who have lost their children to missiles fired by Russia?
Is this your justification to call Ukrainians you don’t know “Nazi by default”? Damn, I guess all Americans must be filthy colonizers, genociders and racists, because I’m fairly sure some monuments have gone up in recent years endorsing people who were busy genociding the Native population. Does this mean you are a racist by default as well as you are American?? Damn…
I’ll make clear that argument is made with large sarcasm undertones, it’s a ridiculous notion but it’s one you’re currently employing when referring to my Ukrainian friends as “swastika forehead tattoos”. That’s why I keep telling you, you are justifying hate of an entire nation of people because you want to hate them. So far I’ve refrained from even talking about Russia’s warts (aside from the obvious lgbtqia+ one).
But here you can see a list of monuments to him. Fairly strange that after the “Western coup” barely any were constructed anymore, 3 if my count is correct. I’d urge you not to count the ones under Yanukovych, the one removed by the “western coup”. It’s a depressingly larger number. You’d imagine they’d double down on the nazi element after Yanukovych. Or maybe your media isn’t as free from propaganda as you had thought either. Maybe you’re consuming another authoritarian/imperialist’s propaganda on the matter.
But don’t let facts get in the way of your hate.
Talking about Nazis in this war, you know Wagner was made by a Nazi? Yeah that one Putin loved so much till recent history. Dmitry Utkin, stellar guy, has SS tattoo’s and a photo with Putin, he got awarded “hero of the russian federation” lol! Guess he doesn’t care about Russian Nazis all that much, weird. I know it’s not as dramatic as forehead swastika’s, but it’s pretty damn close tbh. This is the same private military company taking over mines in Africa, and being sent to assassinate a Jewish person by Russia.
That’s all ignoring that Russian itself has a very long troubled history with Neo-Nazism. They fund the actual Nazi’s in my country lol. That’s a really strange way of denazifying places, by magnifying their voice in politics! If this is the “critical support” you are willing to offer them, I have some bad news, you are critically supporting a country supporting Nazis in Europe.
Planning for the monument began almost the instant the USA succeeded in its long-term project of annihilating the USSR, causing millions of deaths, way back in 1993. (See page 3.) It’s almost as though the idea of Ukrainian nationalism is fundamentally united to Nazism!
I never said that all Ukrainians are Nazis. I said that their government is run by Nazis, and that people excusing a Nazi government (like yourself) are likewise Nazis.
I’m not sure why you care so much about the Ukrainian people though when you don’t give a damn about the millions that have perished (and the tens of millions who have had their lives destroyed) thanks to America’s wars subsequent to 9/11. If you cared about these people, surely you would at least raise an eyebrow when America orders you to support their NATO imperialism without question? Surely you would think that maybe mass murderers shouldn’t be trusted?
Dude you are such a joke. How many Nazi monuments do you pass during your daily commute? ONE Nazi monument is too much! There shouldn’t be any monuments to Nazism anywhere! Why do liberals have such trouble understanding that Nazism is not only bad, but also suicide! Don’t you remember how Hitler’s life ended? And who drove him to that point?
It’s interesting you bring up Utkin, who hasn’t been seen in public since 2016. When Chinese tennis players vanish for a day, liberals around the world have tantrums and meltdowns, but when the Russians were embarrassed by this Nazi and possibly even made him disappear, total silence from liberals, especially given the fact that public displays of Nazism are illegal in Russia and encouraged in the USA. Highly interesting. But there are actually Nazis in Russia, they’re just working for the CIA.
One of the few things I can agree on. But why are you allowing statues of genociders in your country then? Seems a bit hypocritical.
You know what’s worse than a statue of a Nazi? Awarding a living Nazi, “Hero of the Russian Federation” lol. Who cares when he was last seen, I care that he was in recent history awarded by Putin “the Denazifyer”.
In all of this I’ve not defended America once, but you keep bringing it up whenever Precious Russia is called out.
lol, further projection because you know you are being a hypocrite. I haven’t said a good thing about a Nazi, but you’re intent in even explaining away one awarded by Putin. That’s sad and pretty transparent on how much you care about actual Nazis.
“Hey you haven’t discussed the other tragedies in the universe, clearly you are soulless” what a tool response. Go deal with the tragedy that’s unfolding now, or are you of the opinion “if one get’s to commit atrocities, so can I!”
Ah yes, those are totally the only Nazi’s in Russia lol. I guess Russia funding Nazi’s in Europe is also CIA?
I literally gave you a Nazi that was awarded by Putin. Guess he must be some deep CIA asset lol!
Go have your last sad response to this I won’t entertain you anymore. I see you for what you are, supporting Russia’s cultural genocide and the actual Nazi’s they have in their midst, you’ve not said a bad thing about Russia at all and you keep whinging about America whenever it is brought up. Not surprising you support another war/genocide as an American though given your history, a bit too on-brand if anything. I’d have hoped you’d learn from the 9/11 you keep bringing up, but I guess not. You’ll just wield it to justify another atrocity instead.
Ironic you keep yelling at me about it because I couldn’t stop 9/11, you could’ve though, you’re an American. That’s on your conscious.
Europe / Northwest Asia really isn’t sending its best. Death to amerikkka.
Why hasn’t he been seen in seven years? If Russia is so proud of him, where did he go?
Your supposed refusal to take sides on the conflict is obviously in support of the status quo. You fool nobody but yourself.
Who caused the genocide in Iraq? Is your home country by any chance allied to this nation constructed on genocide and slavery?
Reading sources is apparently asking too much of this extremely intelligent and highly educated person. But if you don’t read, it’s only a matter of time before you find yourself excusing Nazis the way you do. You are really, truly, deeply in over your head, unaware of NATO being founded by “former” Nazis, unaware that the CIA rescued thousands of Nazis after WW2, unaware of the existence of Operation Gladio, unaware that the CIA has admitted to controlling the corporate media you devour (Operation Mockingbird), yet thinking that you can lecture someone who has actually done the reading and knows about these things. Who is the American here exactly?
Dude how could I have stopped 9/11? I was 12. I don’t know why you’re running away, I really want to hear this. Also explain please how capitalism is not authoritarian. Then let’s hear about the slavery and genocide your own country is perpetrating in the global south! Which companies in your home country are “investing” in the poorest nations on Earth?