Police investigation remains open. The photo of one of the minors included a fly; that is the logo of Clothoff, the application that is presumably being used to create the images, which promotes its services with the slogan: “Undress anybody with our free service!”

  • nudny ekscentryk
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    910 months ago

    but false, nonconsensual nudes are not collectible items that need to have their authenticity proven. they are there to destroy peoples’ lives. even if 99% of people seeing your nude believe you it’s not authnetic, it still affects you heavily

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      510 months ago

      nonconsensual nudes are not collectible items that need to have their authenticity proven

      of course not, but that’s not what this comment thread is about. It’s about this:

      Ironically, in a sense we will revert back to the era before photography existed. To verify if something is real, we might have to rely on witness testimony.

      that’s where it can be very useful to store a fingerprint of a file in a trusted database, regardless of where that database gets its trust from

      • nudny ekscentryk
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        -210 months ago

        sure, but again: why woudl anyone like to do that with consensual or nonconsensual nudes?

          • nudny ekscentryk
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            -110 months ago

            it very much is:

            OP: In Spain, dozens of girls are reporting AI-generated nude photos of them being circulated at school: ‘My heart skipped a beat’

            parent reply: Thats why we need Blockchain Technology

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              a discussion can have multiple, separate threads with branching topics, that’s what this threaded comment system is specifically made to facilitate

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                010 months ago

                okay, let’s rethread how we got here:

                OP: Spanish girls report AI porn of them circulating

                parent comment: Blockchain could fix this

                1-st level reply: Blockchain can’t counteract fake porn being created

                2-nd level reply: it lets you verify original source

                3-rd level reply: if anything it lets you verify integrity between sources

                you: if a central authority can’t be trusted to verify sources then Blockchain can

                me: it’s not about verifying provenance of the material but rather its mere existence in the world

                you: we can store the fingerprint of the file in a trusted database

                me: but this doesn’t affect the material’s existence

                you: you’re going off-topic!

                me: I am not

                you: this conversation can have multiple threads

                can you now see how it’s you who’s off the rails in this conversation? noone ever questioned how blockchain could allow verifying any piece’s of media authenticity, but spreading forged, nonconsensual erotica is NOT about proving whether a photo or video in question is authentic; the problem is that people have got tools to do so in the first place, and before a victim can counteract and prove (using blockchain if you will) that a particular photo is a forgery, the damage is done regardless

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                  010 months ago

                  okay, let’s rethread how we got here:
                  OP: Spanish girls report AI porn of them circulating
                  parent comment: Blockchain could fix this

                  you’re missing a step there, buddy. I know, it’s hard, let me make it a bit easier for you by drawing a picture:

                  “blockchain can fix this” was never about preventing AI porn from being spread, it’s about the general problem of knowing whether something was authentic, hence their choice to reply to that comment with that article

                  • nudny ekscentryk
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                    19 months ago

                    Again, for the sixth or whichever time: this has nothing to do with the clou of the problem