We’re in the 21st century, and the vast majority of us still believe in an utterly and obviously fictional creator deity. Plenty of people, even in developed countries with decent educational systems, still believe in ghosts or magic (e.g. voodoo). And I–an atheist and a skeptic–am told I need to respect these patently false beliefs as cultural traditions.

Fuck that. They’re bad cultural traditions, undeserving of respect. Child-proofing society for these intellectually stunted people doesn’t help them; it is in fact a disservice to them to pretend it’s okay to go through life believing these things. We should demand that people contend with reality on a factual basis by the time they reach adulthood (even earlier, if I’m being completely honest). We shouldn’t be coddling people who profess beliefs that are demonstrably false, simply because their feelings might get hurt.

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    I don’t think the OP meant to discount opinions of “anyone that disagrees with him” but rather to discount the opinions based in supernatural.

    It also doesn’t seem to me that the OP is really interested in “forced reeducation” but rather reducing influence - probably through ridicule, deplatforming or similar actions.

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      And ridicule is discriminatory and excluding, of you don’t respect someone just ignore them and leave them alone and if they follow harmful dogma then inform them respectfully how that could be harming them but don’t go amd be disrespectful towards them or target them out for having beliefs which you personally disagree with

      That same targeting behaviour is what reddit atheists do

      Edit since some people need additional context: I’m not tolerating intolerance with my comment and any hateful bigoted views should be called out and appropriate action should be prevented to prevent intolerance and bigotry

      But we shouldn’t harrass and / or intimidate people with beleifs we don’t believe in if they do not bring harm to others and / or incite or discuss bringing harm to others

      For example: someone who holds the spiritual belief that there is more than phyiscal reality isn’t harming someone, this is non-harmful

      Someone who has beleives that they should exterminate those that don’t follow their religon or force everyone to conform to their religon, that is harmful

      I personally take the position of calling out bigotry and / or intolerance (anything that will harm someone) because it needs to be called out but at the same time I will call out unjustified ridicule and / or discrimination for non harmful beleifs because people like reddit atheists and even some atheists outside of reddit have unjustifiably targeted those with non harmful beleifs for discrimination and / or ridicule

      • @SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world
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        if they follow harmful dogma then inform them respectfully how that could be harming them but don’t go amd be disrespectful towards them or target them out for having beliefs which you personally disagree with

        Am I allowed to be disrespectful when they’re calling for my death and taking away my rights?

        • @x4740N@lemmy.world
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          Read my comment,

          I absolutely agree with you calling out harmful actions as you have described “calling for my death and taking away my rights” because Tey are harmful beleifs

          I just don’t agree with people being disrespectful towards non harmful beleifs and ridiculing and / or discriminating against those with non harmful beleifs

      • @Gabu@lemmy.world
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        Stupid logic. Following this, we should just leave Nazis alone instead of curbing them. Predators and abusers would also “be left alone”.
        Think a bit before throwing your opinion to the ether.