• bioemerl
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    1311 months ago

    Vaping is actually very helpful and it’s probably helped a lot of people stop smoking.

    The only problem was the fact that they got away with doing shit like advertising it to kids and making it cool. Fix that problem and vaping is almost literally only an advantage compared to cigarettes.

    And even with more people taking it up, it’s still unhealthy but it’s like mildly unhealthy instead of cigarettes where it’s like oh yeah you’re going to double your chance of dying at 50.

    • @grue@lemmy.world
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      011 months ago

      Vaping is actually very helpful and it’s probably helped a lot of people stop smoking.

      Being marginally less unhelpful than some other very unhelpful thing is still objectively unhelpful.

      • bioemerl
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        611 months ago

        Marginally is a massive understatement. Maybe in 50 years we’re going to discover that it causes some crazy side effects, but in comparison to smoking it’s like having a hamburger once a week compared to three a day.

        • @grue@lemmy.world
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          11 months ago

          The point is, its amount of helpfulness is still negative, not positive.

          • bioemerl
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            511 months ago

            For someone who is a smoker and otherwise would not be able to quit its helpfulness as immensely positive.

            • @grue@lemmy.world
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              11 months ago

              For every smoker vaping helps, it also tempts probably at least one person to start using who didn’t before. Therefore, it is 1000% indisputably negative and everybody trying to make excuses for it is a goddamn enabler.

              • @buzziebee@lemmy.world
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                211 months ago

                For every person who makes up bs statistics, there’s a 1000% increase in the number of sad kittens. It’s indisputably negative.

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              11 months ago

              It is extremely 1000% true that vapes ARE IN FACT A NEGATIVE for TEMPTING NON-SMOKERS TO START VAPING.

              Now quit lying!

      • downpunxx
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        -311 months ago

        95% harm reduction is not marginally anything, you lying piece of shit

        • @buzziebee@lemmy.world
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          011 months ago

          Yeah don’t let perfect be the enemy of good etc.

          Because Lemmy has a relatively small user base bad takes can take up a lot of a thread. Normally those silly voices would be hidden away. By replying to them lots we let them take up more of the thread space. I’m guilty of it too, but after scrolling down I think we should just ignore that person.