• BaroqueInMind
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    8810 months ago

    Now thar Hyundai has patented it, it will never become popular enough to impact the market and be standardized in more vehicles or change anything, similar to the Wankel engine.

    • @psycho_driver@lemmy.world
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      3610 months ago

      similar to the Wankel engine

      Was the Wankel engine really a step forward though? I’m a gearhead who does all his own car maintenance, up to and including engine swaps in the past and retro-modding bigger turbos and aftermarket fuel injection systems into my cars (Datsuns in the latter case). That being said, I only know the very basics about rotary engines. I’ve always admired the Mazda RX’s from afar.

      Mazda, who by no means makes a bad gasoline engine, could never get a rotary motor to last well or to have anywhere near decent fuel economy. Also, the rotary design was tried for a while in at least refrigeration compressor applications, where it blew up there a lot more than the other types of compressors as well.

      • @sunbeam60@lemmy.one
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        1110 months ago

        The argument is, though I’m not qualified to assess it, that Wankel engines are simpler, smaller, more power dense and, if allowed time to develop, would be an improvement on the traditional ICE. It’s very difficult to assess where we would have ended up and a little by the by, given we need to move away from burning fossil fuel.

        That said, do check out LiquidPiston’s evolution of the Wankel engine. It does sort of look like they’ve solved a number of issues a traditional Wankel engine has.

        • @ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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          810 months ago

          if allowed time to develop

          The basic problem with Wankels is that the geometry of the combustion chamber (such as it is) is constantly changing, which inevitably results in incomplete combustion compared to traditional ICEs. This leads to lowered fuel efficiency and greater emissions; the emissions problem is solved with an additional combustion chamber for the exhaust gases, but this consumes more fuel and lowers efficiency even more. It’s just a fundamental problem with the technology that no amount of development could ever fix.

        • @Haywire@lemm.ee
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          110 months ago

          It still has corners that need to have a moving seal. This is a huge issue.

    • Cethin
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      1410 months ago

      But capitalism creates innovation!!!

      • @aidan@lemmy.world
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        1110 months ago

        Some people argue that intellectual property law is not free market capitalism, and is instead a regulation that benefits big business. I’m one of those people

        • Cethin
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          810 months ago

          While I’d agree in essence, in practice I don’t. They’re an offshoot of capitalism. The goal of capitalism is profit, and if you can create barriers to competition, that protects your profit. IP law is something created out of capitalism as a barrier. If it isn’t the government doing it, it’d be goons hired by those in power. They exist because of capitalism, not from something external to it. If the system were focused on doing good or creating utility, IP law wouldn’t be required.

        • @barsoap@lemm.ee
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          Free market and capitalism are mutually exclusive as in the theoretical model that is the free market, with perfectly rational actors and information, a capitalist class cannot exist, they’d quickly get competed down to size.

          Unregulated markets and capitalism, now that’s a lovechild, as without regulation real-world markets quickly turn into monopolistic shark-tanks instead of free markets, actors not being rational, information not being perfect and all. The role of regulation, indeed the state, is to correct for that factor and make the real-world market approximate the free market.

          (This view of the world brought to you by ordoliberalism, the only sane liberal economic theory there ever was or probably will be – because they actually managed to side with the free market, and not capitalism, as the rest of them).

        • Flying Squid
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          -110 months ago

          Cars should be able to pollute as much as the manufacturers want because innovation is all!

    • @tourist@lemmy.world
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      1210 months ago

      “Probably failed cuz they called it the wanker engine lmao. Now set aside another few milli for the copyright lawyers”