Don’t you see? They’re fucking with the denominator. My 60% is already technically closer to 58%. If they keep adding keys, I don’t know how my mech can keep up with the shrinkflation. I can’t become one of those 50% weirdos. Microsoft is just finding more ways to ruin my life.
Yeah and I already do. But why make it a key combo when you could just have a single dedicated key instead?
It’s not like anyone actually uses the menu key or the right Start key anyway. 'Bout damn time Microsoft remaps them to something more useful. Next they should do the Pause/Break key. That one hasn’t been useful since the DOS days.
Because none of those keys are useful. AI is useful and isn’t Microsoft exclusive.
Once keyboards start adding the key, I’d be legitimately surprised if the major Distros didn’t eventually follow suit and integrate AI into their platforms as well. Hell, it might get built right into your favorite desktop environment in a couple years.
I get your point, AI is useful for some people, but what about the rest of us who don’t want it or use it? I genuinely use the menu key and would prefer to keep it functioning as it does and now I’m going to be forced to lose that key and now I have to deal with AI? It has no use for me. I also don’t want something actively watching and “thinking” about what I’m doing. I want my computer somewhat dumb and to only do what I tell it to. If you want a keyboard with a dedicated AI button, get one with a macro pad or something. Don’t inconvenience the rest of us by forcing a nonsensical change
Funny you say that, cause as a FL Studio user I hit that key all the time. (It switches between auto/manual scrolling of playlist, i.e. it locks/unlocks auto scrolling.)
Yes but you’re missing my point entirely. What I’m saying is that I’m happy that Microsoft is making it official, so that I don’t have to remap anything.
I’m ambivalent about all this, but I think the distinction is that a web browser button would simply open a persistent window, and therefore only really needs to be used once or twice per “session”. Copilot is designed to act more like the Start menu, in that it is opened frequently and disappears after each use.
That being said, and as much as I use ChatGPT myself, it’s hard to see this as anything more than an easy way to further the perception of Microsoft as first-class AI company, thereby justifying its high stock price for a corporation with limited new growth opportunities.
Copilot is designed to act more like the Start menu, in that it is opened frequently and disappears after each use.
Copilot’s session maintains state. That is it modifies responses to your questions to get more accurate. This means it needs to be left open even more than Google.
Google is almost stateless. The second query you give it doesn’t immediately change based on the first query, so the old style keyboard with a web browser button is more useful than a button to launch copilot. Because you need to keep a single session open until the problem is solved or you lose all that state information.
I didn’t mean to imply that Copilot is stateless when I said that the window shouldn’t be persistent. I don’t really disagree with anything you’re saying though, I’m just guessing that Microsoft expects/hopes that Copilot will soon be as integrated into most everyday computing workflows as the Start menu, rather than a full web browser. Probably wishful thinking, but only time will tell.
Also, you’re kind of advocating for a Bing button more so than a web browser button. Don’t give Microsoft any ideas :P
Also, you’re kind of advocating for a Bing button more so
The windows key is a Bing button. You press it and type things to search but Windows gives you Bing results along with local apps that match what you type.
To increase Bing hit results they even automatically show a list of “trending searches” that have nothing to do with your search or any possible search history.
I just hit the Windows button to see what happens and got “Kelly Clarkson weight loss” “Tyreek hill house fire” and “Caitlin Clark” in trending searches. I don’t even know who they are.
Print screen used to be a good button for screen capture/window capture. But now the various screenshot apps do the job better. Ctrl+Prt Scr is maybe still good for being fast
Can’t you go in your desktop settings and bind whatever combination you like to do just that?
Don’t you see? They’re fucking with the denominator. My 60% is already technically closer to 58%. If they keep adding keys, I don’t know how my mech can keep up with the shrinkflation. I can’t become one of those 50% weirdos. Microsoft is just finding more ways to ruin my life.
It’s already mapped to Windows Button + C.
Yeah and I already do. But why make it a key combo when you could just have a single dedicated key instead?
It’s not like anyone actually uses the menu key or the right Start key anyway. 'Bout damn time Microsoft remaps them to something more useful. Next they should do the Pause/Break key. That one hasn’t been useful since the DOS days.
We should also get a chrome key
And a windows store key
And a Microsoft.com link key
A key to open minecraft
Why not a key for launching the “windows action menu” or whatever they call it
A key to open the control panel
How about a key to open the settings menu?
Why are we limiting ourselves? We should have 500 keys and at least 300 of them should be unique to windows.
You think you are joking but in the 90’s that was a thing for keyboards.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/363221421164
it had a few hardcore fans, a quick search for RT9450 shows people still trying to get that to work up to about 2020
honestly i wouldn’t mind having another scroll wheel/bar on the keyboard somewhere, in the middle above the function keys might be cool
also fyi that link can be tidied to https://www.ebay.com/itm/363221421164
Try a stream deck, each key is also a small monitor for customizable button actions.
Because none of those keys are useful. AI is useful and isn’t Microsoft exclusive.
Once keyboards start adding the key, I’d be legitimately surprised if the major Distros didn’t eventually follow suit and integrate AI into their platforms as well. Hell, it might get built right into your favorite desktop environment in a couple years.
I get your point, AI is useful for some people, but what about the rest of us who don’t want it or use it? I genuinely use the menu key and would prefer to keep it functioning as it does and now I’m going to be forced to lose that key and now I have to deal with AI? It has no use for me. I also don’t want something actively watching and “thinking” about what I’m doing. I want my computer somewhat dumb and to only do what I tell it to. If you want a keyboard with a dedicated AI button, get one with a macro pad or something. Don’t inconvenience the rest of us by forcing a nonsensical change
Their point was that you could just assign the scroll lock key (or whatever) to open ChatGPT instead because who the fuck uses scroll lock?
Funny you say that, cause as a FL Studio user I hit that key all the time. (It switches between auto/manual scrolling of playlist, i.e. it locks/unlocks auto scrolling.)
Im pretty sure you could look up key remappers and do that already
Yes but you’re missing my point entirely. What I’m saying is that I’m happy that Microsoft is making it official, so that I don’t have to remap anything.
MS used to sell a keyboard with a custom button to start your web browser.
Now that web browsing is common but that key has been removed from keyboards, do you still remap a hotkey to bring up Firefox?
I’m ambivalent about all this, but I think the distinction is that a web browser button would simply open a persistent window, and therefore only really needs to be used once or twice per “session”. Copilot is designed to act more like the Start menu, in that it is opened frequently and disappears after each use.
That being said, and as much as I use ChatGPT myself, it’s hard to see this as anything more than an easy way to further the perception of Microsoft as first-class AI company, thereby justifying its high stock price for a corporation with limited new growth opportunities.
Copilot’s session maintains state. That is it modifies responses to your questions to get more accurate. This means it needs to be left open even more than Google.
Google is almost stateless. The second query you give it doesn’t immediately change based on the first query, so the old style keyboard with a web browser button is more useful than a button to launch copilot. Because you need to keep a single session open until the problem is solved or you lose all that state information.
I didn’t mean to imply that Copilot is stateless when I said that the window shouldn’t be persistent. I don’t really disagree with anything you’re saying though, I’m just guessing that Microsoft expects/hopes that Copilot will soon be as integrated into most everyday computing workflows as the Start menu, rather than a full web browser. Probably wishful thinking, but only time will tell.
Also, you’re kind of advocating for a Bing button more so than a web browser button. Don’t give Microsoft any ideas :P
The windows key is a Bing button. You press it and type things to search but Windows gives you Bing results along with local apps that match what you type.
To increase Bing hit results they even automatically show a list of “trending searches” that have nothing to do with your search or any possible search history.
I just hit the Windows button to see what happens and got “Kelly Clarkson weight loss” “Tyreek hill house fire” and “Caitlin Clark” in trending searches. I don’t even know who they are.
Hey! I do use menu key regularly! And same with pause and scroll lock! Print creen is obvious and everyone uses it. Right? Right!? RIGHT?!?
Print screen used to be a good button for screen capture/window capture. But now the various screenshot apps do the job better. Ctrl+Prt Scr is maybe still good for being fast
Pause is usually the compose key (diacritics starter) on Linux desktops. But I’ll agree about Scroll Lock, that one is truly useless.
Excel uses scroll lock to
make people think it’s brokenlock the scroll bars in case you don’t want to be able to see the rest of your sheet