• @blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
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    3911 months ago

    To me it is super weird that GrapheneOS positions itself as a way to degoogle - but it is only supported on google’s Pixel hardware.

        • nudny ekscentryk
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          111 months ago

          Why would anyone care about official support? That’s not why you buy a pixel

            • nudny ekscentryk
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              111 months ago

              is it that bad? I though Graphene supports all Pixels well

              • @EngineerGaming@feddit.nl
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                111 months ago

                The following devices are end-of-life, no longer receive firmware or most driver security updates and receive extended support from GrapheneOS as part of the main releases with all GrapheneOS changes including all of the latest Android Open Source Project changes:

                Pixel 5 (redfin)
                Pixel 4a (5G) (bramble)
                
                • nudny ekscentryk
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                  211 months ago

                  well, I see. thankfully there’s loads and loads and loads of alternatives over on XDA still in development

    • @Whom@midwest.social
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      4311 months ago

      They only support Pixel hardware because it’s currently the only line that meets their list of requirements. I’d guess that if something came around which beat the Pixel line, they’d support it…but I also don’t see anyone positioned to do that right now.

      Though it’s worth mentioning that the developers don’t emphasize degoogling all that much and their community often have a bit of tension with degooglers who come to join them. The OS certainly meets the needs of those of us getting away from Google but the developers have no problem recommending workflows that go through Google (albeit with regular app access rather than the privileged and deeply integrated access on stock Android) when they’re more secure than the alternatives. For example, they’ll regularly suggest using sandboxed Google Play over F-Droid or Aurora Store, again because of their stance of prioritizing security above all.

      It can sometimes be a bit annoying when your priorities are more about avoiding corporate surveillance than protecting yourself from attackers or a snooping government, but their work ends up supporting both regardless.

      • @blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
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        411 months ago

        That sounds like a reasonable position. Google would have an advantage in getting timely AOSP and security updates, but getting that stuff done should be a high priority for all manufacturers anyway. As for the rest of the list, there are things I don’t know about - but at a glance it looks fair enough. So I guess there could and probably should be other phones trying to meet those conditions.

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        -211 months ago

        For example, they’ll regularly suggest using sandboxed Google Play over F-Droid or Aurora Store

        Because many of my used apps are only available in Google Play.

        GrapheneOS gives you options that you don’t have to use. I don’t agree with you.

        • @Whom@midwest.social
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          11 months ago

          I didn’t say it was a problem. When security and privacy come into conflict, they pick security. Myself, I don’t care as much and I’m perfectly happy grabbing those apps through Aurora Store. My personal preferences don’t completely line up with them in this case, but it’s a principled position in its own way, and they don’t stop me from doing it the way I prefer.

    • @Tikiporch@lemmy.world
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      611 months ago

      I think because on other manufacturer android phones, like Samsung, you’d have to de-Google and also de-Samsung.

    • @Gestrid@lemmy.ca
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      111 months ago

      I’m betting it’s because Pixels have some unique hardware/ software quirks or something.

      • @0x2d@lemmy.ml
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        311 months ago

        iirc they are the only phones that allow adding custom avb keys and then relocking the bootloader