I was just perusing the modlog when I noticed something interesting. Apparently posting news about Gaza/Palestine is not allowed on !worldnews@sh.itjust.works. I decided to check the side bar and didn’t see anything. The only pinned post also does not indicate that this is not allowed
edit: the mod in question is @Eyekaytee@aussie.zone . sorry for not originally tagging. i hadn’t realized it was a rule that this must be done. i thought it seemed inappropriate since i was trying to initiate a conversation about a community’s rules and culture rather than start drama about an individual
Holy copium batman 😂
A famine on the scale of the Great Famine, largely self inflicted by the federal government, was an entirely singular and unprecedented event. To attempt to portray the Great Famine as a common historical event or anything other than a tremendous black mark against the government which presided over it is clear evidence of bias on your part. Everybody makes mistakes, but the anatomy of the Great Famine was clearly the direct result of decisions made by the CCP that would never have been made under a different, less authoritarian political system.
I’d have to imagine that any neutral party reading through these comments will have gotten plenty of confirmation that my assessment of you is correct, in that your blind adherence to communism as a panacea prevents you from understanding or engaging with reality in objective, rational terms. Good day sir.
It was initially caused by adverse weather conditions in a semi-feudal level of development. Killing the sparrows made it worse, but the communists did the best they could with what they knew, and more importantly, were responsible for developing beyond that semi-feudal level and instead creating cooperative farms that were far more productive. None of this is cope, the famine would have happened under the Kuomintang had the nationalists won the civil war.
Secondly, nobody is siding with you here. Imagine this neutral party all you want, they don’t exist at the moment.
Pure, unfettered cope. It’s amazing that you know how events would have unfolded in an alternative timeline where the CCP didn’t exterminate billions of sparrows. Your mastery of ecological science must be exceptional, I’m sure you’ve run the numbers on this and come up with a data-driven model that demonstrates the truth of your argument. Surely you wouldn’t make such a claim without having copious amounts of statistical/historical/ecological evidence to support said claim.
Smartest thing you’ve said all day, neutrals don’t really exist on this platform. I’m aware of that, discussions such as these are more useful for me to develop and work through my own positions and rhetorical techniques for exposing sophists and ideologues.
The famine started before killing the sparrows, that’s why they killed the sparrows. You do realize that, right? And you do realize that communism isn’t “kill the sparrows,” correct? You have no logical process here, it’s pure reaction.
If your goal is practicing rhetoric, then you’ve failed, though failure is a good teacher.
Lmao this is one of those normal people I’m talking about who view your discussions as little stage plays.
We all think you’re weird for this stuff. Arp!
You mean the transphobic american nationalist is someone you hold as having well-thought out views?
Dunno, I didn’t get any of that from this back and forth, just you being crazy and him spitting facts.
Your response to this is hilarious.
In what way was it hilarious? imaqtpie made the argument that “communism is when you kill the sparrows,” when no modern communist thinks that was a good move. They’re arguing against ghosts, while you defend zionists and transphobes.
I guess it depends how far your head is up your ass, I think all your responses are hilarious, it’s why I bait them whenever I see you going off then spend all the time you reply to me insulting your points.
You’re a TV show that’s always on to me. You’ll always be here blowing hot air into your friends and twisting them into balloon doggies.
Then when you meet and argument that’s good and consistent, you ad hominem because your rhetoric is so weak and easily passed through.
You are my favorite thing on this site.
Global warming began before humanity started burning fossil fuels.
Do you think Planet Earth would be doing just as badly if humans had never started burning fossil fuels?
Because clearly you’re implying the famine would have been nearly as bad if the CCP never started killing sparrows.
It’s laughably easy to brush aside your counterarguments because your position is inherently irrational and based on emotion.
Do you believe that communism is only valid if communists have never made mistakes?
do you think capitalists have never made mistakes on the scale of the sparrows issue?
No, I outright stated that the famine was worse because of killing the sparrows. It was also alleviated by cooperative farming, and famine in general was alleviated by development.
I really think you need to reread this convo, because you keep saying I’m saying things I never did.