I was just perusing the modlog when I noticed something interesting. Apparently posting news about Gaza/Palestine is not allowed on !worldnews@sh.itjust.works. I decided to check the side bar and didn’t see anything. The only pinned post also does not indicate that this is not allowed
edit: the mod in question is @Eyekaytee@aussie.zone . sorry for not originally tagging. i hadn’t realized it was a rule that this must be done. i thought it seemed inappropriate since i was trying to initiate a conversation about a community’s rules and culture rather than start drama about an individual
Again with this stat? Maybe you should look for polls on how many Africans want to be back under colonial rule and see how wack this is
Are you still doing the thing where you equate two entirely different and incompatible things like doing Mad Libs is acceptable logic? Like, someone could say “solar energy is a good thing” and your rhetorical response would be “what if I replaced solar energy with ‘racism?’ Then wouldn’t you be saying racism is good?”
My point is that Russia has a rising socialist sympathy among the populace, which is true. We can point to their reasons being that capitalism has, by and large, been devastating for Russians, while socialism worked well. Colonialism, on the other hand, has been disastrous for its underdevelopment of Africa, and many of these liberated countries are under neocolonialism or imperialism to this day.
You really need to check your rhetoric, you were called out for this faulty “Mad Libs” logic already.
These things aren’t different wtf?!?
You’re talking about people that hold nostalgia to past regimes. This is the case in many African countries today. I’m trying to point out the idiocy of your statistic.
If you’re using that as a justification of return to the USSR, i can equally use it as justification of return to colonialism in Africa
what does it even matter, this has nothing to do with anything, cowbee supports socialism?
what exactly is your argument, that its bad that they’re supporting socialism because some people support colonialism?
cowbees argument is essentially they are bad but they help socialists and they may become socialist again, how is it relevant in any way that africa supports colonialism?
They didn’t even back up that claim, it looks like they made it up specifically as a counter-example for rhetoric.
Not at all. I don’t care what his aims are whether it were in justification of Nazism or feudalism. I’m saying it’s wrong to use nostalgia polls as evidence that anything should be pursued, because that would be lending credence to Africans who reminisce about the easy times under colonial masters and actively vouch for a return to said system
But he didn’t do that so…?
quote the part where he said we should do socialism because of a nostalgia poll?
Are you being intentionally obtuse?
That is the entire point of him citing that poll
No, he cited that poll because he supports socialism and russia is in favor of socialism. He did not say socialism is good because of the poll.
He didn’t just cite the poll just for the purpose of just citing it. He cited it because he wants to show how socialism is popular and therefore should be pursued.
No, these are entirely different things. You’re essentially saying that it is useless to take public opinion polling on whether they prefer socialism or capitalism because some people would say they prefer colonialism over neocolonialism or imperialism. Citing the fact that Russia has increasing support for socialism as proof of Russians having increased support for socialism is perfectly valid.
Taking your logic at face value, if someone said “I like chocolate,” your equivalent counter would be asserting that that’s the same as saying “I like fascism.” It doesn’t logically follow, the point is about Russians supporting socialism, which is increasingly true.
Citing the fact that Nigeria has increasing support for colonialism as proof of Nigerians having increased support for colonialism is perfectly valid.
This is your argument but for colonialism.
It’s quite impressive the mental gymnastics you’re using to avoid debating my actual claim which is clear as day to understand. The point is Nigerians supporting colonialism which is increasingly true
I’m not arguing for colonialism, I’m arguing for socialism, and the stat I gave was in the context of other points. Secondly, you gave no source on Nigerians wishing to return to colonialism, you made that up for your Mad Libs argument. You’re caught up in trying to point out hypocricy and false rhetoric that doesn’t exist.
I don’t need a source. Go to any African country and ask them whether they wish to return to colonialism.
I’m telling you using nostalgia as evidence to return to a system is faulty due to those that revere harmful systems as well. Hence my citing of Nigerians who revere colonialism.
Don’t know why it’s this difficult for you to grasp this point
So you made it up, just to argue rhetorically using a hypothetical you lied about? No, Nigerians do not want a return to colonialism, you lied about them wanting it back increasingly over time to paint me as a hypocrite.
Yes they do. Go speak to some Nigerians