Trolls & bots fail to understand or accept that Russia is anything but infinite and inevitable - but numbers are numbers. They’ve spent half of their entire Soviet inheritance to steal what they sit on today. The war doesn’t end when they get to zero vehicles. The half they’ve squandered is surely the BETTER half, and they still need an army for territorial defense and internal repression. Ukraine is not about the break, and this is probably the best position Russia is ever going to be in. This is the endgame of this messy, abusive Divorce, and Pootz has to come up with some whopper lies to say it was all worthwhile.

  • sepi@piefed.social
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    Russia doesn’t have any working nukes. If it did, it would have thrown one at Ukraine. And nobody would give a fuck about it - neither the US nor any other nuclear power would get into it over Ukraine getting nuked. Am ukrainian, before y’all talk any shiz.

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      Russia has thousands of nukes. No doubt they aren’t in the best shape ever but they don’t need all of them to work. And there’s no way they’d nuke Ukraine. The rest of the world would ostracize them. You’re just wrong.

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        Russia has been ostracized.

        I suppose they could get embargoed harder by China and India, but if they nuked Ukraine they might get buked back.

        The US might decide to hold off but the UK or France could put one down.

        I doubt they would nuke a major city, but they might set one off in the country as a “Consequence”

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          That’s a pretty big bet that no country would ever be prepared to make. That’s like gambling the guy who broke into your home doesn’t have any bullets in his gun

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            If I am punching the guy that broke into my house in the balls repeatedly and he doesn’t shoot me, he either has no bullets or no gun.

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              Or he’s concerned about the five other guys with guns trained on him that all have a cautious understanding that nobody should shoot first. The Soviets didn’t nuke Afghanistan and America didn’t nuke Vietnam, after all

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                    So you’re in your house, right? And I’m in my house. Good so far?

                    So a guy breaks into my house, and I’m punching the guy in the balls repeatedly. And you, in your house, are currently afraid of that guy.

                    I think this is a perfect analogy for the current situation everybody finds themselves in at the moment.

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      I suspect Russia is worried about how well their nukes will work. The small tactical ones (battlefield nukes) are the most complex and so most at risk of a maintenance failure.

      Russia’s worst fear is deploying a nuke, only to have it fizzle. At this point it’s strategic or nothing. Deploying a strategic nuke would cause massive political fallout. Far more than Russia could cope with. No-one, including China and India, want that genie back out of the bottle.

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      This is a horrible take; russia underspent on their army (with current results) to upgrade and refurbish the nuclear forces.

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        The trick is that the money for the nukes was stolen. Nukes have value as a boogey-man and the russians expected everybody to be scared of the idea that they had nukes. You seem to believe them on this front.

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        No. They underspent on their army because Midget Pootin and his cronies, needed new holiday palaces, Yuri.