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Screenshot of a Mastodon toot by @ebassi@mastodon.social:

The whole open source community loves Milkshake Laptops, a lovely laptop company that has ethical values! 5 seconds later We regret to inform you the laptop company stans fascists

  • Qwel@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    175·
    2 days ago

    Please don’t keep this title if the post reaches the frontpages

    It has only been 12h, and they only put up one (awful) placeholder response. Give them a bit of time to look into things before telling the headline-readers to never buy their stuff

    • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
      213·
      2 days ago

      i haven’t told anyone to do anything; but even then, shouldn’t it be goal to put pressure on them so they change course?

      • Qwel@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        134·
        2 days ago

        Maybe I’m being a bit too nervous, but companies like Fairphone or Framework rely on goodwill from technical people who are ready to pay more for less stuff to encourage their politics. If poeple categorize them as non-rule, they are not going to pay the premium. I think, for a lemmy user, that would set the odds of buying at near-0. again, maybe i’m being too dramatic

        I agree that putting pressure this way is a good thing, but the pressure needs to be conditional. If you just mark them as dead before giving them a chance to correct course, they are better off reaching all the way for the customer base of “apolitical” users. The ebassi screen has a parodic tone that reduces the certainty and definitiveness (people will just put FW into question rather than fully discard it. i think), and avoids citing the name directly, limiting the damage to people who already have some understanding of the situation

        anyways at this point I think there is enough threat to elicit a reaction on their part, and that we should wait for them before burning everything down. and I hope they can just have a quick fact check and everything will be fine and they will actually have money to donate because they won’t if they keep up the vibe of the first response

        I’m being way overinvested ok byeee

        • vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          4·
          1 day ago

          companies like Fairphone or Framework rely on goodwill from technical people who are ready to pay more for less stuff to encourage their politics. If poeple categorize them as non-rule, they are not going to pay the premium.

          Then they REALLY should have thought of that before they fucked the goat.

        • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@reddthat.comEnglish
          3·
          1 day ago

          If poeple categorize them as non-rule, they are not going to pay the premium. I think, for a lemmy user, that would set the odds of buying at near-0. again, maybe i’m being too dramatic

          Correct, I will not be spending extra money for organizations that go around talking about how they want to give their money to people who’d rather I not exist solely based on my demographics.

      • poke@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        63·
        2 days ago

        Sure, but there are too many people here who will see this post and internalize “Framework evil” for the rest of their lives, when a large company like that just needs more time to properly investigate, respond, and react to issues.

        I’m looking at those people who internalized “Proton evil” way too quickly, for example.

        I don’t think you should have to adjust this post at all, but unfortunately this is how things are.

        • ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          8·
          2 days ago

          Most of what you said is good, but the “proton evil” saga was not a quick one at all. The CEO keeps following up and doubling down, over and over, to this day. It isn’t an “I misspoke, my bad it won’t happen again” situation.

        • rumschlumpel@feddit.orgEnglish
          6·
          2 days ago

          people who internalized “Proton evil” way too quickly, for example.

          Is there a reason not to take it seriously that their CEO praised Trump?

          • poke@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            31·
            2 days ago

            Take it seriously, but with the right amount. Yes, the statement was concerning, no it was not a statement (in my opinion, because yes this is subjective) strong enough to warrant cancelling the whole company when it was a single board member being dumb, while the rest of the company continues to act in good faith. Words can be loud, but actions are louder, and I truly believe the response has been blown out of proportion.