Eyes Up’s purpose is to “preserve evidence until it can be used in court.” But it has been swept up in Apple’s attack on ICE-spotting apps.
Eyes Up’s purpose is to “preserve evidence until it can be used in court.” But it has been swept up in Apple’s attack on ICE-spotting apps.
Send Apple feedback. They need to hear how unpopular working with Trump will make them.
https://www.apple.com/feedback/
OR stop buying ANY of their products
Yes, but also make it clear why you are leaving. And as dirty as it feels, don’t tell them their actions are irredeemable and they’ve lost you for life.
If you tell them you’ll never come back no matter what, then they no longer have to care about your opinion. You’re essentially telling them that they should start catering more-heavily to the fascists now that the only potential customers don’t mind them bending the knee.
Well, both, really.
Make sure they know you won’t be buying their process anymore because of these policies.
If people actually do this, they would find out next quarter
But everyone loves talking big but keeps using these corpos products
I, for one, have never used any of their shit.
Don’t project.
I don’t think he’s projecting on you personally, Apple has a $3.76T market cap. If people really were upset that number would go down
Correct.
One guy standing tall is cute and all but that’d not how systematic change happens. Need like 10-15% of people to get in the fight to send a proper message
Be the change you want to see.
I am already balls deep, chief.
Helping family and friends while shilling it online.
We got min 5 years best case scenario still
If you’ve used Android, they did the same thing and removed ICE-spotting apps.
Which is why I stay away from Google’s products too.
What do you use?
I tried pine phone, but it wasn’t usable as a daily driver.
A random second hand smartphone, with a custom Android rom and no Google crap on it.
Also I’m constantly behind a VPN, just in case they can still get some useful data from me.
I consider that WAY better than buying a shitty iPhone
Not OP but GrapheneOS on a Pixel probably works quite well. Got independent app stores such as FDroid etc.
Oh that’s fantastic.
Can you please tell me you’re entirely ethical smartphone setup?
Obviously you won’t have any Android in there, including Android ROMs which are based off of AOSP, as Google is just as, if not more, evil than Apple, and any project based off Google’s OS is inherently unethical.
Are you’re using a Fair Phone? If not, what ethical phone are you using?
And for your OS, is Sailfish or Ubuntu Touch?
A used Onpeplus 10 with Lineage on it
Yeah, and I didn’t pay for it. I don’t use Google services. You said ethics, right? I bought it used, Google doesn’t profit and I don’t use any of their services, so, they don’t continue to.
Seems pretty sound to me. Lemme know if you need a recc for a TV or anything. I’m good with those too. I like helping normies connect with technology.
Buying used is excellent
Your argument seems to be “all things that aren’t perfect are equally bad, so you must either boycott them all or never complain about any.” This is obviously silly. We’re talking about Apple and ICE, not every other company and every other bad thing.
Cause using AOSP benefits Google’s ability to limit their app restrictions.
Tell me you don’t understand open source without telling me you don’t understand it…
You give off some real “Well achkshuslly” enlightened centrist vibes here.
Using Google products is implicit support for Google.
Which, by the way, I understand, but if you actually read the comments from top to bottom, you would have grasped the context.
So tell me you didn’t actually read the comment thread without telling me.
Oh no, we can’t have ethical smartphones so we are forced to fund the worst corporations that exist 😢
I guess I’ll just go buy an overpriced piece of tech crap locked in a shitty proprietary environment that doesn’t respect any of my rights…
Uh, that would have been a good argument back when flagship models didn’t cost more than the latest iPhones. Unless you’re buying something other than Samsung though, you’re paying more than $2k for something that soon won’t even be able to side-load apps.
The gap between Android and iOS is closing as fast as Google can build the wall around their garden.
The person I was responding to was declaring that their choice to use an Android based phone makes them a more ethical consumer, and therefore a better person, then iPhone users.
That’s an absurd position, which was what my comment was highlighting.
What makes you think I buy flagships?
Also who cares about their gap, Linux phones are the next stop now.
How about you just don’t act high and mighty and pretend that your personal consumer choice of using an Android based OS somehow make you more ethical then those who use an iPhone.
No, the thing here is that whenever one calls out company X then its fanboys will be like “company Y is worse”.
Which is absurd because X and Y don’t care about any of you.
If you are still using an apple phone in times like these then you are not taking your life serious enough. Big techs power will absolutely fuck things up in the coming series of purges in the US and people are totally unprepared for it.
How does one prepare for it without sitting around being a bored luddite all day? Idk how to tell you this, but the rot is total, and Americans simply aren’t willing to meet the moment
Can you not have fun without big tech platforms? There is so much stuff out there to do. So many hobbies both digital and physical to entertain yourself with.
For tech things there is the open source nerds that continue to make it possible to remove the influence of our tech overlords from our lives while still making use of the hardware we already have.
For climate change there are local groups in many cities (at least in Germany) with the specific idea of creating future proof communities that will survive supply chain collapse for food, water, electricity, etc.
or both
How much “feedback” do you think it will take to make them contradict the vindictive sitting President? Apple doesn’t care about what you think about this because it’s not for you.
You know what you can do? Stop giving them money. Write them an email from your iCloud account, then delete said account. Cancel any subscriptions (this seemed to be effective against Disney).
The fed gov holds too much power. You have to show them that Americans, collectively, have more power to affect their bottom line than the Pres, and (most importantly) are willing to exercise it.
Apple fans are not that type of person, though. They’re better than everyone else, and so is their owning entity! They can do no wrong, this app was obviously guilty of doxxing cops …
Well I was going to pretend not to be a pessimist but realistically, no group of people is “that type of person”, which is why we’re all so helpless. People are addicted to their favorite platforms and there’s nothing you or the platforms can do to make them leave.
Microsoft might prove that one wrong if they keep enshittifying Windows.
The only people worse than Apple fans, are Apple haters.
Because I see a lot of vocal Apple haters on Lemmy, just shitting all over Apple users, but I rarely see Apple users here shitting on Android or anything else.
Here come the devil’s advocates, good lord that is something I don’t miss from Reddit.
Wake up call! Apple doesn’t need you defending it. It is okay to shit on them. This isn’t about fairness so please take you tired schtick somewhere else.
Apple is the trend setter. The avant garde. If Apple does it, soon everyone will be doing it. If you see Apple doing something shitty, you need to nip that in the bud right quick.
I don’t disagree.
But my comment was a direct response to the user ranting about their superiority to, and hatred of, anyone who uses Apple products.
I use a iPhone, my mom and dad (may he rest in peace) were already using them and wanted to use the family features on them to keep my brother and me safe. I didn’t choose to be in the ecosystem, I was just placed in it.
I also just have no reason to talk shit on android users because I know many of them are like me. Just placed into the ecosystem by parents, since their parents used them. Also just who really gives that much of a fuck? It’s a phone, it’s a laptop or earbuds or whatever. Largely things that people just need in the modern world, and it’s easy to stick with what you know and what’s easy to use.
Well, we give a fuck because modern society has required us to need a device that fundamentally destroys any real resistance. Naturally people are gonna be frustrated
Then there’s me owner of Android and Apple and talks shit on both haha.
They kind of got that rep though for defending things people saw as anti consumer such as soldered ram, limited, storage, and blocking installation of non Apple apps. Always going Apple knows best and its for security.
Not exactly the group known for demanding more, but ones who are more complacent.
I’m an Apple owner too with MacMini and iPad so these criticisms of Apple users isn’t coming from a non Apple product owning hater. I think average Apple fan in general really sucks for how they seem to kneel over to whatever Apple decides compared to other platform users who are much more critical and demanding of products.
lol you’re just plain wrong on that. Apple fans these days are like you: They make fun of everyone outside of their group instead of the products themselves, because you all understand you won’t ever be winning an objective argument.
What argument…?
Out of nowhere, you just started talking shit about Apple users to make yourself feel superior about your individual consumer choices, really cool bro.
Also unclear who I was making fun of, unless you consider pointing out how absurd your Apple user hate is, to be making fun of you.
But that’s not making fun of you, it’s pointing out how pathetic your unprompted and vocal hatred for Apple users was.
Really proving how intelligent Apple fans are with that reading comprehension… The argument referenced there is obviously referencing the arguments you brought up elsewhere on the internet between Apple fans and other fans.
It’s not out of nowhere. This is a topic about how people maybe should not give Apple money if they don’t want to support a corporation that will bow to fascists.
How stupid and captured their dumbass fans are is DIRECTLY related to how easy it’d be to convince them to not keep throwing money at Apple.
The fact you cannot even follow a basic conversation is the only pathetic thing here.
It’s not my reading comprehension that’s to blame for your rancid hatred of Apple users and I’m confident that your behavior is repulsive to more people than just me.
The irony is that I use Linux for desktop and Graphene for mobile so my objections are not rooted in defending my own consumer choices, they’re based entirely on your pathetic blind hatred of people who use Apple products.
lol so you defend that which you do not even use and that which you do not undertand? What a joke…
My hatred is anything but blind, and you calling it such is sealioning beyond belief. I love your hypocrisy… An Apple user without even using Apple products… Truly, your lot in life is more dreary than you could ever admit.
They’re based in the USA, they have to work with the government or they’ll be targeted/taken over/shut down, surely?
They could try to escape the USA and move all their operations to Europe, but I think they’re just going to stick where they are and do whatever the fascists want them to do. So long as they’re getting paid why should they care?
It would be better for the economy to commit suicide than to comply, and we as consumers have the power to make them if only we organized
They had no problem standing up to the FBI when they knew the Constitution still worked. It’s not bravery when it doesn’t cost you anything and there’s nothing to be afraid of. But now things are different and regular every day people don’t want to say it out. The implications make them uncomfortable.
Apple’s market share outside of the US is pretty pitiful. Even with their piles of money, it would hurt.
A strongly worded letter
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