• mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    Theology is a discipline, almost as old as mathematics. It predates classes to begin with.

    BULLSHIT.

    The theocrat was the original ‘high class’. The priests have been grifting the commons since day one. All knowing, all loving, all powerful god, WHO SOMEHOW NEEDS TEN PERCENT OF MY EARNINGS?

    theology is a discipline of grift and deceiving the masses.

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      19 hours ago

      WHO SOMEHOW NEEDS TEN PERCENT OF MY EARNINGS?

      zakat is actually 2.5% of your hoarded (for a whole year) money that exceeds 87.48 grams of gold, given to the poor. Shouldn’t that actually be a means to elimination of class ?

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        11 hours ago

        Doesn’t sound particularly progressive. 87g of gold is like $10k and it’s a flat rate. Empirically there are plenty of Muslim billionaires anyway, so it ain’t working. Would be interesting to tot up billionaires per capita by religion but I don’t think it would be particularly meaningful because the US skews everything, and how “practicing” someone is of their religion is impossible to measure.

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          Just the normalizaton of this practice is good ngl.

          If a billionaire donates 2.5% of his money out of their goodwill they get bunch of supporters and tax breaks and people forget allegation on how they raped someone and so on.

          Meanwhile even kings, who could do whatever the fuck at the time, were expected donate at least 2.5% in 600s.

          More progressive taxing can not only be justified in hindsight of modern capitalism, but can become commonplace and expected too.

          Also unrelated but not a single king quit being royalty because they had to donate 2.5% of their ownings so that “taxing the billionaires would unmotivate people to start business” was absolute bs for a good 1400 years lmao.

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          3 hours ago

          Under an Islamic rule, the Muslim is forced to do this donation. And Muslim billionaires are not all of a sudden all pious because they have this label. Islamic law doesn’t eliminate the need to study politics and sociology you know. Many Muslim scholars, claimed that it could in fact end the poverty in the Islamic world if really all obliged muslims paid their zakat (which is a requirement for Islam, not like a side quest, and should be enforced legally), among them Dr. Abd Al-Rahman bin Hamood Al-Sumait a humanitarian. This might appeal to you?: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2017/jun/22/zakat-requires-muslims-to-donate-25-of-their-wealth-could-this-end-poverty

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        19 hours ago

        give money to the poor any day. giving it to a church, temple, mosque etc., is just ignoring the truly needy.

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          19 hours ago

          They ask you, [O Muhammad], what they should spend. Say, “Whatever you spend of good is [to be] for parents and relatives and orphans and the needy and the traveler. And whatever you do of good - indeed, Allah is Knowing of it.” 1

          I know right?

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            17 hours ago

            just like christians and the good samaritan - they know it’s part of their core beliefs but… ¯_ (ツ)_/¯ they choose to keep giving money to anyone but the ones who truly need it.

            why is it so hard for believers to actually hew to the values their beliefs are built around? so strange… it’s like, they believe in an all powerful deity but somehow think he won’t notice them ignoring the needy?

            and it’s not all believers. goodness knows. but so many…

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              4 hours ago

              Are you using “Tu Quoque” here? basing on a “Hasty Generalization” I assume ?

              If you’re basing on Saudi Arabia or UAE, please notice that you’re basing on a country that is pro Israel, meaning literally invaded.