• degen@midwest.social
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      Initially: Thank god we can finally stop pretending Trump is a real candidate

      Moments later: Oh, oh no

      Ten years later: What what what oh shit oh fuck

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      I have repeated this story numerous times.

      After that tape came out, a conservative woman went on The View TV show to defend Trump.

      One of the panelists kept using the phrase ‘pussy.’

      The conservative woman asked her to please stop using that offensive term.

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      As a PoC we kinda just go with the flow. Got a few scattered family members that support him for his regressive values but its very few and far between. For white people, I can only imagine, entire families must have had a schism put through them.

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      What does even “conservative” mean for Americans? For Europeans it means you try to conserve things, or apparently being a moron.

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        In North America, it means (traditionalist, nationalist) right-wing whereas liberal means left-leaning. Similar to European definitions

        Conservatism: Originally inspired by natural law and formed by the upper-class, conservative parties today are middle-class organisations that seek to preserve established traditions and the current status quo of a society. They normally advocate traditional values as authority, nation, religion, family, stability and continuity. Over the time they incorporated some liberal values, especially on economic issues (free market policies).

        From wikipedia

        Conservatism in the United States is one of two major political ideologies in the United States, with the other being modern liberalism. Traditional American conservatism is characterized by a belief in individualism, traditionalism, capitalism, republicanism, and limited federal governmental power in relation to U.S. states, although 21st century developments have shifted it towards right-wing populist themes.

        In the US, liberal–conservative is synonymous with left–right

        American political ideologies conventionally align with the left–right political spectrum, with most Americans identifying as conservative, liberal, or moderate.

        with US political scientists & pollsters preferring labels liberal, moderate, conservative over left, center, right, eg

        Americans’ ideological identification was steady in 2024, with an average of 37% describing their political views as “very conservative” or “conservative,” 34% as “moderate,” and 25% as “very liberal” or “liberal.”

        However, much of lemmy seems to deny that conventional alignment exists: I don’t know if that’s basic ignorance or tankie disinfo/stupidity.

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        in america, “conservatives” will tell you that they want a return to “traditional values” even though that’s just barely the case in reality.

        what maga really wants:

        be racist/bigoted with complete impunity
        mandatory jesus
        own slaves again
        failing that, resegregation
        tradwife

        i’m definitely leaving things out, but you get the idea–pretty much the fantasy is to return to the 1950s

        edit: i want to add, a LOT of maga voters will say “no i don’t want that i don’t want that” while literally voting for and supporting and wearing t-shirts of the party that’s trying to force people to deify charlie kirk, and punish anyone who doesn’t. it’s absolutely fucking insane, and whatever problems exist in europe, please know that here’s at least one person who envies you

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          Now I just need to know what “libtard” means, as I get called that by tankies from time to time…