States should be taxing or increasing licensing fees on these vehicles to pay for the increased medical services because of these unsafe vehicles.
In Australia they’re registered as trucks, and drivers have to follow truck rules, including special low speed limits on hills, restrictions from minor roads except where that’s their destination
This isn’t a big impost on them, but it makes them less desirable for people who would use them as daily drivers
The state is actually a big part of the problem in this case. Small gas trucks are effectively illegal.
Automakers were fucking around with vehicle classifications in the 2000s to get around CAFE regulations. Things like the PT Cruiser were being classified as trucks. So starting in 2012, CAFE regulations were changed so that fuel economy standards were based on vehicle footprint. But it had a huge unintended consequence.
Suddenly a Toyota Corolla had less-strict fuel economy standards than small commercial vehicles like the Dakota, S-10, and Ranger. Notice how all 3 models were discontinued by 2012? And now that the Ranger is “back” its footprint is larger than some old F-150s?
As the CAFE standards get stricter over time, manufacturers have learned it’s easier to just make the car bigger than to meet the fuel economy standards. They’ve made the marketing about penisnsize and shit, but it’s really more about meeting regulations.
A more recent casualty was small cargo vans. The Transit Connect, ProMaster City, and NV200 were all discontinued by 2022 because small cargo vans can’t meet CAFE. This is also why New York had to cancel its new Taxi fleet that was based on the NV200.
In the 1000% range.
If I recall my driver’s ed, most current “rules of the road” (such as leave a two second gap) are based around WW2 tank driving regulations.
I want to see your pic but I can’t download it or magnify it.
How can I get my goods to market if I dont have a long haul bus?
We should start packing nitroglycerin into kids backpacks to force drivers to be more careful. Sure, some kids would die unnecessarily but dead children seems to be a price Americans are very willing to pay.
Didn’t that other dude say something similar about gun deaths?
Sure but what if some parents are too lazy or bad with money to be able to buy their children nitroglycerin without receiving government handouts? I don’t want my tax dollars helping strangers kids.
/s seems necessary here
How would they carry stuff, guns and their alpha male ego? Did you think about that? /s
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Trying to ban them would be extraordinarily difficult. A potential solution would be to push to reclassify them as trucks, under trucking regulations (I’m unsure how this is done in the US). Once you need a tachograph and a requirement to keep driving records, it would cut back on sales. It also still allows “legitimate” usage. This would weaken the argument against the change.
Basically anything where you can’t see a 5 year old within 0.5m of your bumper should be under “truck” rules, not “car” rules.
For this purpose, it’s not a question of banning them, but adding pedestrian safety regulations. You can still build these monstrosities while also providing better visibility and less likelihood for victims to be run over.
It’s just banning the “wall” of the front. That’s only required as a style choice and style should not trump safety
I’ve actually been paying more attention lately since my brother bought a Chevy
BehemothSilverado EV. As a big and tall guy I’m used to being bigger than most people I encounter, but looking at the “wall” at the front of these vehicles, it is also well above my center of mass. I would also be thrown down and run over. It’s not just children but there really is no “big enough” to survive getting hit with those(And yes I will keep giving my brother a hard time. After All these years of owning a house and large property where he could have argued he needed a truck, he gets one after he gave up that property. He bought this monstrosity to commute alone and do road trips alone. Nothing to tow. Nothing to haul.)
“Nothing to to tow, nothing to haul.” is so typical. And when they do it’s something even a sedan could pull or a van would have been better for. And then they’ll claim they want winter safety even as I comfortably rip by them in a blizzard with my goddamn BRZ(partly because I actually bought winter tires and they think their frozen “all-terrain” tires are good enough).
I know a guy who’s like 250 lbs and like 3 feet wide at the shoulders and he has driven an early 2000s honda fit hatchback for two decades with a family of four. He has a work truck he borrows sometimes to haul things, which he does way more than anyone I know with a truck (farmworkers excluded). Nobody needs one of these shitty ass giant trucks.
100%! It’s all ego and/or stupidity. I’m 6’-5” and get in that BRZ no problem. People ask me how I fit and it’s like…”easily?”. It’s really not that big a deal!
Some old coworkers of mine rode motorcycles(most of us did, it was a bike shop) and the two sales guys who had been to the track once bought F-150s for the purpose(not a trailer, they were going to use the bed). The poorer parts guy had a little Ford Transit that fit his Ninja and the guy who made MotoGP parts on the side and raced semi-professionally had a Mercedez Metris that he could keep locked up tight. My Ninja just rode on a trailer when it needed to move.
We fixed the problem with SUV blindspots by putting rear view cameras on cars, I almost wonder if the solution here is more cameras. Front-facing would get much dirtier tho.
The solution is not buy these stupid vehicles.
Maybe, but why not
- bumper must be a specific height
- headlights must be a specific height
- hood must be sloped so a standard driver can see X
- front face must be lower than center of mass for X, so they are more likely to go over than under
- hood must deform on pedestrian impact (I believe this is required in parts of Europe)
You can do all this to greatly improve survivability of your victims and it only impacts style choices. You can still drive your monstrosity while not killing other people
@BanMe @AA5B Cameras do nothing for people who are hit with the vehicle because the driver is operating it negligently or to reduce the environmental impact (in fact they increase it by using more energy & rare earth minerals). Cameras are a very expensive harm reduction strategy, not a full solution to the problem of oversized vehicles.
I’m feeling similarly. Require a minimum sight lines for shorter humans in front of the vehicle, and lower weight/size limitations on vehicles for a standard Class D license, and a short 1-2 year grandfather period for folks who already own a vehicle that they’ll require additional licensing to continue driving so that they can either trade it or get their ducks in a row and continue driving their vehicle legally.
These gigantic trucks and SUVs are unacceptable on our roads and they keep adding extra wear to our roads due to the increased weight, require larger parking spaces and of course are far more deadly to those outside of the vehicle in any kind of collision. They need to be regulated back into the niches their classes were originally designed to fill.
And for those saying “oh but I need a bed for this that and the other” guess what? you can buy a trailer. Drive around an efficient vehicle then hook up an 8 foot trailer (bigger than basically any truck bed these days!) when you need to haul shit
But what would the people with their small self-esteem do then?
You misspelled penis.
Beat me to it, dammit.
You are up for surprised when you will know blindspot of low level sedan
12 yards long, 2 lanes wide, 65 tons of American pride!
Four wheel drive, smells like a steak and seats thirty-five!
Seats four 400 lb men.
No, never. That would scream mass transit, or the B(us) word. Unacceptable. Think of all the unclean, dirty people with darker skin that I would be forced to look at unfairly.
I thought this was about the freaky little mankins, I was like “yeah they’re freaky, but banned is a bit harsh” then I saw that the background was a modern truck grille, not a building.
Oof yeah ban both
Emotional support vehicles, lol
Gender Affirming
Pavement princesses. Will never haul a load heavier than some groceries, maybe a couple 2x4s, and the owner’s fat ass.
