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    I wouldn’t consider Latin America part of “the West” but fair. I didn’t know the Napoleonic Code has such a wide reach not just in spirit but also in text!

    I’m not doubting you since you are PugJesus after all, but could you elaborate on the developments since the following passage until 1917, if time permits?

    The 1810 Penal Code did not reinstate the offense of homosexuality but retained charges of public indecency and incitement to debauchery, adding outrage to public decency.[12] Napoleon I’s policy toward male homosexuality was generally repressive.

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      I’m not doubting you since you are PugJesus after all, but could you elaborate on the developments since the following passage until 1917, if time permits?

      Oh, you absolutely should doubt me! I was just an undergrad History Major; I’m basically only a step above a layman. XD

      As with many policies pursued by Napoleon, consistency is sorely lacking. He had several close companions who were openly homosexual and whose sexuality Napoleon freely referenced without implication of major censure; conversely, he gave police forces a free hand and, as mentioned, public morality laws were very broad - and ‘public morality’ laws almost always are broad for the reason that their real purpose is to provide law enforcement with an excuse to harass people whenever they like.

      I’m most familiar with the LGBT community during the Third Republic (which would have been contemporary with the October Revolution), wherein severe social censure and harassment was combined with fairly open discussion of LGBT issues and a permissive legal environment - at least by the letter of the law. God knows the enforcers of the law are rarely so impartial as the letter, but that’s as true today as it was then.

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      Many German states also used the Napoleonic Code until Prussia united them, at which point they used Prussia’s code as a basis, which, notably, did retain criminalization of homosexuality.