• masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    Some workers have it good, with good compensation, perks

    Only in places where labour organising have managed to win concessions in spite of the capitalist mode of production - a capitalist mode of production that is reproduced globally to this very day. If it wasn’t for the need to stabilise the imperial core, coal miners in Germany would be treated no differently than cobalt miners in the DRC. There is nothing comparable to that in the pre-capitalist world - not even the brutal exploitation of the Americas by the Spanish was reproduced globally.

    You are trying to compare apples with oranges.

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      23 hours ago

      We’re talking about how not all conditions are the same, you can’t just discard some conditions because they differ from the point you’re trying to make. Some miners have it really good inside a capitalist system, same as some might’ve had it good under feodalist system.

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        5 hours ago

        you can’t just discard some conditions because they differ

        I am not discarding anything. There simply was no feudalist model of resource extraction analogous to the one that has been driving the mining industry in the capitalist era. The well-paid shift boss in a mine in Australia and the poorly-paid rock-drill-operator in South Africa is working under the same capitalist mode of production.

        This was not the case under feudalism.

        So again… you’re comparing apples to oranges.

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          2 hours ago

          You’re complaining about painting all feodalism era mining as brutal and hazardous while painting all mining under capitalism as brutal and hazardous. It just seems funny