X will charge users ‘a small monthly payment’ to use its service::X owner Elon Musk today floated the idea that the social network formerly known as Twitter may no longer be a free site. In a live-streamed conversation
I hope this is the one thing that he actually follows through on. Drive a stake through it already
I really hope so too. I’m tired of Musk.
We all are. He sucks so much and looks like a dollar store Kathy Bates.
I’m trying to figure out if that’s more insulting to Kathy Bates or Dollar Stores.
I wish Lemmy had keyword filters.
Edit: hmmm… Maybe the slur filter will work. Let’s try.
The beauty of the Fediverse is that many tasks like this can be done by the client, as opposed to the actual base software.
For instance, Lemmy can’t actually block instances or “subs” (or whatever the equivalent is) on an individual level, but Voyager can.
On another point, as much as I hate hearing about Musk and Twitter, they are both very powerful, and both have an impact on the world. Especially if Twitter were to become an “everything app” (AKA Superapp)(which it hopefully won’t).
True, but the clients are still in their infancy. Liftoff has no support for it as far as I know. Meanwhile, I have the luck of running my own instance, so if the filter fixes it, that would be great.
When I still used Twitter, I was very glad to be able to filter out Trump, otherwise I’d see half a dozen tweets about him per day. We’re kinda heading there with removed on Lemmy now, and I really don’t even want to spend the mental energy it takes to ignore it.
Edit: meh. Using the slur filter just replaces “removed” with “removed”. Time to investigate some other clients I guess.
If you’re using Lemmy on iPhone, Memmy (application) provides this feature. It works pretty well
It probably won’t, but it keeps Musk in the news.
So many articles about what he’s pondering or what he might do
How about we read about it when something actually changes
I only suggest to do your part in down voting clickbait.
But people keep talking about it and upvoting it. Please just downvote the musk spam. This isn’t even about Twitter/x, it’s just musk rambling.
All the more reason to switch to Wayland.
This is fucking hilarious, the fact that this is so upvoted really tells you how geeky Lemmy is though!
I’d rather pay for X than drop driver support for my GPU!
What is wayland? How is it different than Mastodon if a Twitter replacement?
Both X11 and Wayland are competing display server protocols in the Linux ecosystem.
X11 is the old version that is now slowly abandoned in favour of Wayland, but still there are things like Nvidia with their proprietary drivers that run better under X11.
Hence the word play.
How does wayland avoid X fees?
There are no X11 fees, this is a joke about X=X11 and not X=Twitter
The X11 fee is having to contend with Xwayland for years to come
Not at all. That’s the joke.
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My mistake, I figured it was easy enough to confuse X as in Twitter with X as in several dozen other tech and tech-adjacent projects.
I am in need of an explanation, Captain.
Can we just skip to the part where the servers get shut down? I’m so tired of hearing about this prick.
Nah, let’s skip to the part where Musk tries to move them using cheap labour and a screwdriver.
Wait … we already had that.
They will? Or they’re considering it?
Two very very different things.
Not if the goal is to make sure their brand and Elon is in your feed again today and top of your mind.
A service that I have to pay for AND it harvests and sells my personal data? SIGN ME UP!
If Musk wants me to use his shitty crap site, I will be charging him a small monthly fee.
At this point i think hes just mad he had to buy twitter and is just destroying it now.
Yes please.
BURN IT DOWN !
This will be the final nail in the coffin. If it was already $1 and they made it $5, that would be less of a problem than free moving to $0.01. As soon as they start charging people need to be OK with giving Twitter their credit card number. Even if they trust them with that, there is still the issue of getting people to actually go through the process.
While I pay for a search engine, when there are free options, I’m not sure what Twitter is offering here to make people care enough.
Which search engine?
Kagi
Why?
I prefer to be the customer, not the product. When I do a search I get actual search results instead of a page full of ads. I want to support a business model that goes against the idea that being ads supported is the only way to exist on the internet. I found with Kagi I don’t really need other search engines, while DuckDuckGo had me constantly going to Google.
A few months ago my browser reverted to Google for some reason. I did a search, got some results and recoiled a bit, saying, “wtf is all this bull shit.” Then I looked up at the top of the page and I was on Google. After spending several months with Kagi, I don’t know how people put with Google. It’s like the whole world were like the frogs who were cooked my raising the water temp 1 degree at a time. Everyone is overrun with ads, but don’t realize it, because it’s all they know. There’s another away.
I’d give up all my streaming services before I gave up Kagi.
I looked into it, and I am definitely interested. Do you have the unlimited plan? Because I 100% would burn through the other plans very quickly.
I’m on the early adopter professional plan, because I signed up before they changed their plans. There was only 1 option when I signed up. At the time they would show what was paid vs what it cost. I tossed them some extra money once, because they were basically breaking even on me. It looks like they removed that now that they have a more solid pricing model backed by some data. I pay $10/month for 1,500 searches, 500 extra search over the normal professional plan for being an early adopter.
I don’t try and limit myself at all. It’s my default search engine for work, home, and on my phone. At work I’m a software engineer, so I’m searching a lot (though I do spend most of my time in meetings these days). Looking at the last 7 months, my peak was around 1050, with the lowest being 455. If I go over 1,500 it’s 1.5 cents per search, so not a big deal, plus warnings and limits can be set around that.
If you’re interested you can start with one of the lower plans and see what your actual usage is (it shows you by month and by day). If you end up needing unlimited and feel it’s worth it, you can upgrade. It looks like if you’re going over 2,000/month it’s worth the upgrade.
They have some AI offerings too, like page summaries and things. I think those have their own quotas. I should probably try those out more, but really haven’t. They’re making a privacy focused browser as well (currently just on iOS and macOS). They have a maps beta as well. I haven’t used that too much, but I’m all for another Google Maps competitor, they also pull from Apple Maps, so there are options. It has !bang support as well, like DuckDuckGo, but I find I don’t use it that much (but like the option).
Not a single actual quote from Elon in this article. Does anyone know what he actually said? Because the title states it as a definitive while the excerpts sound more like he was just floating the idea out loud.
“It’s the only way I can think of to combat vast armies of bots,” explained Musk.
I mean specifically the bit about “X will…” as if it is a fact.
Yeah that’s true. The headline is asserting something that I don’t think Musk has actually said he will do. On the other hand, I’m having trouble thinking of any random idea Musk has had that he didn’t attempt to follow through on.
Not if they’re funded by deep pockets like with governments and corporations.
Thanks Elon, you’re gonna make it really easy for me to eventually move on
I did that last night. The place has turned into cesspool anyway. My account was there just to watch the shitstorm develop but sure as hell it’s not that interesting for me to pay anything to him.
Nail. Coffin. Good riddance.
This will hurt the site so much. People will leave.
Don’t interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake
So great idea!
just die already! ;)
Elon is certainly working hard to kill it.
I will believe it when I see it.
Let’s not forget that more than half of its user base don’t have access to online payment. so I don’t know how they are planning on keeping them
If you can’t pay you can watch some ads every time you login.
How is that going to allegedly stop bots ? they can be made to load the ad and then keep browsing … just another attempt at raising revenue
