People are so lucky for all the great knowledge that was lost when altavista bought dejanews and Google bought altavista. I saw stuff on early 90s usenet that was way way way worse than anything you can see on the modern internet.
When you have a medium of free expression full of weird people who don’t give a shit what the others think, you get the full spectrum of genius from the most horribly grotesque to the most inspiring beauty.
But when you start filling that space with people who think they should conform to what everyone else thinks, and worse, think that everyone else should conform to some behavior, you lose both ends of the spectrum and are left with relatively homogeneous monotony.
Sadly it’s people’s need for validation that drives them to interact here and platforms just reflect that. Up/downmodding, persistent identity, profiles, logins, none of that was ever necessary for us to have conversations in the beginning.
People look at places like this as platforms that encourage discussion, but the incentive is always to post and comment in the way most people will agree with. That doesn’t encourage discussion, it streamlines and simplifies it, removes nuance. And disagreement? Your comment is forced to the bottom of the page and ultimately collapsed / hidden. On reddit it can even be removed by automod to stop you from leaking all that precious karma.
And don’t get me started on the profit motive. In the 90s we were just happy a business came on here and interacted with us. There just wasn’t any way to make money here when it was nerds talking to other nerds. Now the motivation for being present on the internet is to go viral so you can get money and attention.
I don’t care what it takes to get all these newcomers off here but it can’t happen soon enough.
People are so lucky for all the great knowledge that was lost when altavista bought dejanews and Google bought altavista. I saw stuff on early 90s usenet that was way way way worse than anything you can see on the modern internet.
I miss the old internet. Even the dirty underside.
When you have a medium of free expression full of weird people who don’t give a shit what the others think, you get the full spectrum of genius from the most horribly grotesque to the most inspiring beauty.
But when you start filling that space with people who think they should conform to what everyone else thinks, and worse, think that everyone else should conform to some behavior, you lose both ends of the spectrum and are left with relatively homogeneous monotony.
Sadly it’s people’s need for validation that drives them to interact here and platforms just reflect that. Up/downmodding, persistent identity, profiles, logins, none of that was ever necessary for us to have conversations in the beginning.
People look at places like this as platforms that encourage discussion, but the incentive is always to post and comment in the way most people will agree with. That doesn’t encourage discussion, it streamlines and simplifies it, removes nuance. And disagreement? Your comment is forced to the bottom of the page and ultimately collapsed / hidden. On reddit it can even be removed by automod to stop you from leaking all that precious karma.
And don’t get me started on the profit motive. In the 90s we were just happy a business came on here and interacted with us. There just wasn’t any way to make money here when it was nerds talking to other nerds. Now the motivation for being present on the internet is to go viral so you can get money and attention.
I don’t care what it takes to get all these newcomers off here but it can’t happen soon enough.
Reddit in a nutshell.