A society is always about 3 days of hunger away from a violent revolution. Start your clocks.

    • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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      if there isn’t a government, why pay taxes to it?

      actually, stupid question. but what percentage of people could do a tax strike, resulting in the government having no funds or means to go after all of them. and collapsing?

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          There is the idea of taxing them 2%, chosen bellow inflation, so their wealth would still grow, it is a tax that they wont even feel. And it is ridiculously bellow what everyone else pays.

          Yet, even that, painfully compromised idea is considered ridiculous by the rich and powerful.

          Their greed knows no bounds

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        Vast majority of working people have federal taxes automatically deducted from their checks before they even see a dime. Most people get refunds at the end of the year instead of having to pay, so it would be up to the self-employed and basically anyone who doesn’t file a simple form to start withholding their taxes.

        I guess we could talk about getting everyone to adjust their paycheck withholdings but most people live under the assumption that “everything will blow over by next year” whatever the circumstances.

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        Well they print money so not really any amount of people, but at this point you are probably better off just paying taxes to your state, because the federal government is mostly just a Mafia middleman anyways, which has become very apparent under trump. Taking people’s own tax money away from them because they don’t like him or his terrible policies.

        The reality is almost all of this money, well the part that is leftover to give back to the people, is given back to the states anyways, just with a bunch of strings and hands in it. The federal government likes this so that they can manipulate what is taught in schools and road laws and everything else. The states rely on getting their citizens money back from the federal government and so they get this defacto management by executive agencies and stuff.

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        The issue is they will just write IOUs. It’s not like they can’t. They can also literally print money. So.

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          yeah the federal government can essentially print arbitrary amounts of money through the federal reserve bank if it has control of it, yes.

          the only way out (to prevent the federal government from having infinite, literally unlimited economic buying power) is to devalue the dollar in such a way that the dollar becomes completely worthless, i.e. its value goes to zero. but this will only happen if people stop accepting the dollar as a valuable currency, i.e. if people switch to using alternative currencies instead, like the euro (€) or something else entirely.