I saw that a post was made in !main@sh.itjust.works about defederation about a month ago, an admin commented to make a post here to discuss defederation, but the post was never made.
https://maga.place/ is very obviously a small community with no real substance to it, but I saw an antivax post to !science_memes@mander.xyz and was surprised it still exists.
Anyways I don’t really have a lot to say but uh, I recently hit a full year on this great instance 😊 (old account @TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works)
I navigated the instance some. The amount of disinformation on its posts is concerning to me. I hadent personally been effected but the potential is worrisome.
As a general rule, I am against defederation unless the instance is going to cause liability or technical problems (bot spamming, illegal content, etc.)
This instance in particular is closer to banning a user that is self hosting. It is closed, requires account approval, and thusly defederation will not catch any unknowing users in a dragnet.
So I think defederation is a reasonable exception for this instance, especially given the community vote in progress.
I haven’t seen any evidence of their users consistently violating rules of other instances, I’ve only seen intolerant communities on their instance. That should not be grounds for defederation, we should only defederate if their instance refuses to deal with reported abuse from their users.
So I’ll vote no on this. While I very much disagree politically w/ that instance, I don’t think that’s enough to defederate.
The only interactions I’ve had with them was a user trolling.
If you have evidence, post it. If we have any mods who have experience working w/ their admins, we should have that evidence as well.
meh, I’m not going to convince you. Just vote no. Besides:
I would like the option to vote to defer to the moderators. Reason being while I think it is valid to keep their community exposed to outside, less supportive, takes on their ideology, I also understand that the community has potential to be a particularly toxic and hostile one, so I understand if our moderators (who I am very appreciative of) don’t want to take on the task of keeping them in check on this community.
Also, those of you upvoting and downvoting votes are wild.
What their homepage looks like…
Defed that nonsense please
A screenshot made for ants? Am I doing something wrong if I only see blurred text and large pixels when I zoom in in voyager?
Agreed
They should be defederated.
Their hateful ideas should have no place here.
The post on Science Memes got downvoted into oblivion, which is funny.
But yeah, we should probably defed these pos.
Defederate, we saw what the_donald become. If anything, to avoid the bots and agitators.
Defederate. Let the right-wingers have their echo-chambers in isolation
And keep your own echo-chamber? I’m very disappointed in this community… I haven’t come across any posts from that community but their front page looks no worse than news@lemmy.ml just with a different slant. They don’t even have any comments so the community must be tiny.
as long as they’re small and not annoying, it’s better to keep them, so ppl can influence them
This is the logic that keeps them and their hateful ideas in the community.
Let them go live in their own bubble.
Locking them out of the broader community is the right choice
Users can defederate from instances. Just use the tools you already have.
iirc that only works for subs made on that instance, not users from that instance. I’m on Voyager though, so it might be different for me idk
You can block instances on Lemmy. https://join-lemmy.org/news/2023-12-15_-_Lemmy_Release_v0.19.0_-_Instance_blocking,_Scaled_sort,_and_Federation_Queue
That blocks comms, not users. Which is exactly what the comment you replied to is saying. How did your non-answer pick up so many upvotes?
Just block them. It can’t be that hard seeing it’s only 26 of them. Once again, you have tools to solve the problem for yourself. Use them.
Defederation is also a tool.
You (and others like you) want to push your will and opinions on to other users by asking the admins to do a instance wide defederation of the instance. Got it. Because once again, you have tools to solve the problem for yourself.
You (and others like you) want to push your will and opinions on to other users
Paradox of tolerance. We’re not the ones who refuse to tolerate the existence of others.
are you being affected by them?
ooooh i also love banning everyone with an opinion that differs from mine. I do it in all my communities. Cleanse the nonbelievers! Purify our echo chamber!
chants
Purify our echo chamber!
Purify our echo chamber!
That ‘differing opinion’ is somebody else’s right to exist
Hate is not an opinion and hate is all that maga stands for.
Says the person who wants an echo-chamber
Removed by mod
Removed by mod right back at ya!
