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    Headline is wildly misleading.

    All apple did was add a setting to turn off some of the liquid glass appearance that users were already doing by turning off a couple of other individual switches that already existed. And from what i hear the settings only turn off some of the liquid glass appearance, with much of it still present even with the switches turned off

    It’s obviously an indicator of very many people not liking liquid glass that forced Apple to add a switch to (partially) turn it off, but liquid glass is very much still alive in all of Apple’s current and upcoming designs.

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      It’s obviously an indicator of very many people not liking liquid glass that forced Apple had to add a switch to turn it off

      I mean. I wouldn’t call it ‘wildly misleading’. I have no plans to enable it. RIP for me.

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    Look it may not have been perfect but idk I’m glad they tried to do something different. And I’m not even an apple fanboy. I just appreciate the attempt.

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      Sure. And i appreciate them not being microsoft and just forcing everyone to use it for years and years.

      But design-wise it didn’t work for the vast majority of people who tried it.

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    I’m ngl I don’t particularly care one way or another, but googles new material 3 expressive looks a lot better to me imo. That and the way Apple is heading with ads in maps and paying their big tech bribe money I think they’re getting Tim Cooked. It might be time for me to move to graphene.

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      …with ads in maps and paying their big tech bribe money…

      No kidding. I’ve been an Apple customer since '05 and they’ve lost me. It’s not this one thing but rather, the overall, gradual decline in quality along the way. I help a lot of people with their tech devices and here are a few things that have gone disasterously bad for me just this year: getting a large photo library OUT of iCloud and onto a single Mac; restoring a borked iOS device from an on-line backup; TimeMachine drive that won’t use, spotlight won’t stop indexing and was impossible to run first aid with out a wipe/reformat; failed iOS upgrades; iPhone that won’t notify the user about incoming messages, sometimes calls, etc.; iOS minor updates that will only download the FULL installer (~8GB worth, every. single. time.). There have been many others. I’ve heard other comment on this UI update making it harder to read in various situations.

      Apple stuff used to be pretty bomb-proof and really hit the mark because it really did “just work”. I’m seriously thinking about just bailing out entirely from their ecosystem to Linux, since I know I won’t have the OS actively getting in my way when I need to fix it (I’m a 30 year Unix/Linux sysadmin). I was never a true believer but used their stuff because it allowed me to avoid more system work off the clock. I can’t help but wonder how Mr. Jobs would have seen the current state of things today.

      Graphene seems quite enticing now.

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        Sheesh those are unacceptable issues for iOS devices at this point. Honestly if they even stopped for just one singular update to fix things or add what’s users want I’d be happy, but I guess you can just do it yourself on android so that’s part of the appeal. Linux is also great, maybe snapdragon x elite 2 will convince me to ditch my MacBook but hardware is too good. My desktop runs it and I generally have few problems but I’d really miss Logic Pro if I switched to Linux, tbh that’s my biggest hang up. Also I don’t think Linux has quite the security level as macOS does at least by default so I’d have to do some research into that. But yeah I tried graphene on a pixel 9 for a week and man I forgot what it was like to actually make the phone how you want, and actually like have swipe to type that works for once. I’m considering grabbing a pixel 10 pro while they’re on sale and waiting for graphene support, the MagSafe equivalence is a big feature for me personally.

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      I like it too, but I do see the usability issues… maybe I just like it cause its new? Idk, iOS design language has been so stale for so long they had to do something, and users will always bitch about changes, so I’m conflicted

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        I think that for people with eyes worse than my own, I can see the problem. The tinted version is definitely needed. But to say it’s horrible and no one likes it is a bit extreme. Everyone in my circle loves it. One person is very happy for the tiny, but they still liked the glass even if they found it difficult to read(this person is also in their 70’s…)

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        It does! It’s different from most of the other iterations of “glass” UI. It’s clean and (mostly) polished. I stated this in a separate comment but I’ll say it here for you, too in case you don’t read my other reply. Everyone in my circle loves it, and one person has trouble reading with it sometimes, but they are in their 70’s and still do like the Liquid Glass. They have enabled the tinting, but aren’t sure if they’re going to keep it that way. This article is kind of misleading, IMO

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          I think that the people who dislike it are more likely to shout about it so that gives the impression that many dislike it.

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    I don’t have opinions on this either way. Serious question: what do people find so bothersome about it?

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      I tested it in my iPad and it’s an eyesore and genuinely less readable.

      In a simple mechanical sense the glass effects are well done but they create ugly imperfections when covering different backgrounds. In my opinion Windows Aero was more tasteful.

      There is also a degradation when it comes to buttons and control frameworks. In previous versions of iOS it was easier to determine what was a control layer and what was a content layer in the UI. Now the content layers are minimized or even hidden for a non appreciable “aesthetic gain” I think in a quest to further make the UI look less technical, in an user interface that already has been made less readable by previous aesthetic considerations (the removal of obvious buttons, which, from an IT standpoint, I run into issues with every day where a user cannot determine what is a control element vs what is a design element)

      sixcolors posted a great breakdown on icon regression as well. A lot of icons look downright sloppy or almost like placeholders while penalizing previously well designed icons by third party devs that don’t conform by putting them in the community-coined “bubble jail”.

      In short, there is a distinct lack of taste and a poor execution of ideas that is also hostile to third parties who produce software that looks better than this new paradigm.

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    Even with the tinted option it still looks like shit. I’m already pricing out how much to get out of Apple ecosystem.

    I’m going to be selling my MBP, iPads and Apple Watch.

    I’m so disappointed with how bad quality has dropped from Apple. I switched to them in 2018. The last few years has been abysmal in the quality of their products and the prices. It doesn’t feel like I’m paying for or using a premium product anymore.

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      LOL you’re going to sell all your equipment and switch to android or whatever because you don’t like this one thing? Get ready to learn how shitty Android is.

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      The hardware is still good. Apple silicon is amazing. The software however has definetly gone into freefall and with the next Siri being powered by Gemini, I’m done too.

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      I’m already pricing out how much to get out of Apple ecosystem.

      what are the options?

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          Well, yeah. I mean. If you want to move to Android because Apple quality isn’t measuring up. . . What would one look at?

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            Pixel really. They don’t put in the bloat that Samsung and others do. You just get an offing and basic apps pre installed.