Solar power and storage prices have dropped almost 90%::undefined

  • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Is that paying cash for the solar system or financing? Financing can devastate the ROI with interest rates today. I’m looking at as long as 12 year ROI with possibly as short as 7 year ROI if I consider the USA’s federal tax incentives. My slightly southern latitude (a border state with Canada) also likely contributes to slightly higher generation results using the same equipment.

    How are the government incentives in Canada? I’m super envious of your great hydro power, my neighbor.

      • scarabic@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        That can’t be for a home. If it was it was predatory nonsense. It should be a 7 or 8 year ROI with a 20-30 year service life.

        Maybe not all areas have much competition driving prices down? I’m in sunny hippie California where every other house has solar.

        • JJROKCZ@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          1800sq ft home, my power bill is a few hundred in the summer, I feel there just isn’t any competition here there only 2-3 companies doing it and they’re all small

          • scarabic@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            It could be that those companies are evil, or perhaps their own prices are just very high because the industry isn’t scaled up in your area. Maybe they have a really hard time hiring equalities installers, and have to ship in parts from far away.

            It was like that in California 20 years ago but it has changed enormously. When you drive down the street, how many houses have solar? It’s probably 3 in 10 here. I get nonstop Facebook ads and can name about 10 companies. With this comes lower prices. But there are still cheats out there. Never work with a “no money up front” company unless you only want to enjoy 10% of the benefit of the panels. For some it may be the only option but these companies are shysty as hell.

            • JJROKCZ@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              There almost 0 solar houses here, 1 in a hundred maybe. A few businesses have been doing it lately, I’ve seen 2 gas stations and several schools in the area do it. I’d like to get it done before my backwards ass state makes it illegal or something

      • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        $50k is a pretty large installation, 18kw-22kw I’d guess for solar only (no battery storage). I’m hoping thats only a max of 100% replacement of electricity sourcing (meaning essentially no net grid consumption after you’re installed). What’s the price per KWh for electricity delivered to your door in St Louis? Its gotta be pretty crazy cheap if you’re that large a consumer of electricity and you’re paying in cash with no battery, and still looking at multiple decades of ROI with the US federal tax credit.

        • JJROKCZ@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          I don’t remember the kWh specs and price off hand but a decent portion of the cost was that I’m in a 1.5 story that faces S and have a lot of small roofs rather than one large roof so it’d be a bunch of panels that didn’t have full sun most of the day. Which is true of all hundred houses in my subdivision as well. Basically build of the house made this difficult or impossible

          • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Does that mean a substantial portion of the $50k quoted was setting up lots of panels is many small spaces, (because of the broken up nature of the roof) and that perhaps the system was oversized its electrical capacity because of the assumption that it would only be fractionally efficient because of the substandard angles and shading? I could see that. Certainly roof designs and even large mature trees can make solar unfeasible in those situations…

            • JJROKCZ@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              Maybe, I was so mad I didn’t even get more quotes, I should really do so but I was expecting 10-20 at most and hearing 50 kinda put me off the prospect for a while. Decided to spend effort on other home improvement we could see instead

    • Sparlock@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      In Canada you can get a 40k loan from the federal govt that is 0% interest on a 10 year term for doing green upgrades to your home. My solar generates more in credits than than the cost of the loan over the year. The Greener Homes Program is a bit of a pain to jump through all the hoops but getting thousands off in grants and a 0% loan is worth it.

      • Polar@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        for doing green upgrades to your home.

        Who is owning a home in Canada lol. You’ll pay your landlord $3000 for 1000sqft or fuck off.