Well, if we figure out that DrFistington is a leftist, you’ll have encountered one.
People get enough into hating Israel that they forget themselves. A French Jewish guy and his son were attacked in Italy, and the post had a mix of people who insisted they were lying or that due to Israel’s actions they deserved it.
This is insane to me, listen to any mainstream leftist twitch streamer right now. All Jews are held responsible for the actions of the government of Israel, and all Israelies are valid military targets because of mandatory IDF service, If they say nothing they are criticized because their silence is equated with complicity, and if they voice objection to the Israeli government they are criticized for not saying enough. All Jews seem to be slowly grouped together as Zionists by the left, where they then give themselves a pass to say horrific stuff. Then, talking about antisemitism gets them criticized as being perennial victims, hand-waving any actual discussion on it away. It is insane to me to hear leftist streamers objectively say identical things to Kanye and Nick Fuentes, things like Jews are indoctrinated from birth, or there are secret back channel communications where they coordinate on talking points, or they have a coordinated campaign to control the US government (once again equating American Jews with the Israeli government). Seeing the blind anti-Semitism happening in the US and the absolute refusal to confront it is so disheartening, and it has in my experience pushed several vocal leftist anti-Israeli government people I know to simply retreat and become non-political, silencing the voices of people who would have been powerful allies for Palestine.
I promise you my literal across the street neighbors, who are Jewish American Democrats, didn’t stop putting up their inflatable menorah for the holidays because they support the government of Israel, they did it because they fear for their family because they were being harassed, and we live in a dark blue area.
Wrong. Hasan is an opportunist that is so blinded on a single issue he says antisemitic things without realizing the consequences of what he is saying, and as he is increasingly radicalized on the Gaza issue (which is justified radicalization) he is losing the plot on being able to police himself, and is sliding headlong into rhetoric that has extremists applauding. He has done more to alienate Jewish allies who actually have voices and stakes in getting Bibi out of power by allowing his community to impose purity tests on Jews for their reaction to everything following October 7, and it’s directly strengthened Bibi’s support by turning allies into enemies. He has promoted us-vs-them rhetoric on IDF members with no nuance about the fact that they have mandatory conscription, so according to his rhetoric, it’s impossible for any Israeli to be an ally against the people in power creating the genocide. But, in my opinion, there’s this circle-jerk of outrage about Gaza that is so profitable to that community that the knee-jerk reaction to terms like “Israel”, “IDF”, “Zionist” etc gets views and donations and you can just spout things for clips without any nuance to literally watch money roll in. If you want the genocide to stop, Bibi has to get out of power, and you do that by creating allies out of the people that can actually vote against him and his regime, not hand-waving it away when they say “hey we’re getting freaked out by what sounds to us like racism.”
Hasan is an opportunist that is so blinded on a single issue he says antisemitic things without realizing the consequences of what he is saying
What are these antisemitic things Hasan has said specifically?
Please source links to these allegations if you are going to make them.
He has done more to alienate Jewish allies who actually have voices and stakes in getting Bibi out of power by allowing his community to impose purity tests on Jews for their reaction to everything following October 7,
What mechanism is Hasan and his community imposing with? Are you alleging something internal to their community or alleging that Hasan and his community have some external power they are nefariously using to impose with?
Edit: I don’t know where you’re from, but in a country with mandatory service, this rhetoric is straight up dangerous. To take a teenager and say they are forced to go into the army or go to jail…they’re all gonna go and do it, even if they don’t like the government, don’t support them, and are dragging their feet the whole time. If this rhetoric is allowed to continue, you have shunned any possible allies that actually have power to overturn the Israeli government.
Hasan is a twitch streamer, Israel and the IDF can stop the genocide any time because they are the ones doing it, all Hasan can do is make videos. Who really has the power here?
Edit One further point, your argument is that Hasan’s perspective isn’t helpful for a certain political outcome in a COUNTRY called ISRAEL. That is DIFFERENT than judaism. You are still conflating, even in your framing of this, the idea of judaism and Israel. It is not inherently antisemitic to believe in political tactics that you don’t think will work for an outcome in a specific NATION, even if your argument was correct it fails at a basic level to identify something genuinely antisemitic in Hasan Piker because there isn’t.
I used to have absolutely no problem with Jews, or Israel. Hell I’ve even thought of converting. But after their raping slaughterfest of Palestine, I don’t want anything to do with the brand, or the product. I say nuke Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, and Israel back to the stone age, then fund a pro democracy movement in Iran and co-opt it while helping Europe push Russians implosion.
There’s way too many things in there to deserve an upvote, but I do agree with some things. Jews were even stereotypically looked at in high regards in many career options in the US. Nowadays, the only saving grace is that a lot of Jews are protesting what Israel is doing.
Where? I have literally never encountered an anti-semitic leftist in the US, like ever in any context.
All the anti-semitic people I have ever met have been very rightwing.
They are probably conflating criticism of Israel’s government with antisemitism.
Of course you’re correct. Nuance died ages ago.
Well, if we figure out that DrFistington is a leftist, you’ll have encountered one.
People get enough into hating Israel that they forget themselves. A French Jewish guy and his son were attacked in Italy, and the post had a mix of people who insisted they were lying or that due to Israel’s actions they deserved it.
Just scroll down… got one ready to nuke an entire region. Downvote me all you want, or dont believe your lying eyes.
This is insane to me, listen to any mainstream leftist twitch streamer right now. All Jews are held responsible for the actions of the government of Israel, and all Israelies are valid military targets because of mandatory IDF service, If they say nothing they are criticized because their silence is equated with complicity, and if they voice objection to the Israeli government they are criticized for not saying enough. All Jews seem to be slowly grouped together as Zionists by the left, where they then give themselves a pass to say horrific stuff. Then, talking about antisemitism gets them criticized as being perennial victims, hand-waving any actual discussion on it away. It is insane to me to hear leftist streamers objectively say identical things to Kanye and Nick Fuentes, things like Jews are indoctrinated from birth, or there are secret back channel communications where they coordinate on talking points, or they have a coordinated campaign to control the US government (once again equating American Jews with the Israeli government). Seeing the blind anti-Semitism happening in the US and the absolute refusal to confront it is so disheartening, and it has in my experience pushed several vocal leftist anti-Israeli government people I know to simply retreat and become non-political, silencing the voices of people who would have been powerful allies for Palestine.
I promise you my literal across the street neighbors, who are Jewish American Democrats, didn’t stop putting up their inflatable menorah for the holidays because they support the government of Israel, they did it because they fear for their family because they were being harassed, and we live in a dark blue area.
Like who? Be specific I am curious
Hasan. Many of his adjacents like Mike from PA, Denims, Noah Samsen, then some featured collaborators like Bad Empanada.
Calling Hasan Piker anti-semitic is absurd, you are a fool lol.
Wrong. Hasan is an opportunist that is so blinded on a single issue he says antisemitic things without realizing the consequences of what he is saying, and as he is increasingly radicalized on the Gaza issue (which is justified radicalization) he is losing the plot on being able to police himself, and is sliding headlong into rhetoric that has extremists applauding. He has done more to alienate Jewish allies who actually have voices and stakes in getting Bibi out of power by allowing his community to impose purity tests on Jews for their reaction to everything following October 7, and it’s directly strengthened Bibi’s support by turning allies into enemies. He has promoted us-vs-them rhetoric on IDF members with no nuance about the fact that they have mandatory conscription, so according to his rhetoric, it’s impossible for any Israeli to be an ally against the people in power creating the genocide. But, in my opinion, there’s this circle-jerk of outrage about Gaza that is so profitable to that community that the knee-jerk reaction to terms like “Israel”, “IDF”, “Zionist” etc gets views and donations and you can just spout things for clips without any nuance to literally watch money roll in. If you want the genocide to stop, Bibi has to get out of power, and you do that by creating allies out of the people that can actually vote against him and his regime, not hand-waving it away when they say “hey we’re getting freaked out by what sounds to us like racism.”
What are these antisemitic things Hasan has said specifically?
Please source links to these allegations if you are going to make them.
What mechanism is Hasan and his community imposing with? Are you alleging something internal to their community or alleging that Hasan and his community have some external power they are nefariously using to impose with?
sigh
Took me 6 seconds https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1msloso/hasan_piker_says_that_hila_klein_is_a_valid/
Edit: I don’t know where you’re from, but in a country with mandatory service, this rhetoric is straight up dangerous. To take a teenager and say they are forced to go into the army or go to jail…they’re all gonna go and do it, even if they don’t like the government, don’t support them, and are dragging their feet the whole time. If this rhetoric is allowed to continue, you have shunned any possible allies that actually have power to overturn the Israeli government.
Do you think that is good evidence?
Hasan is a twitch streamer, Israel and the IDF can stop the genocide any time because they are the ones doing it, all Hasan can do is make videos. Who really has the power here?
Edit One further point, your argument is that Hasan’s perspective isn’t helpful for a certain political outcome in a COUNTRY called ISRAEL. That is DIFFERENT than judaism. You are still conflating, even in your framing of this, the idea of judaism and Israel. It is not inherently antisemitic to believe in political tactics that you don’t think will work for an outcome in a specific NATION, even if your argument was correct it fails at a basic level to identify something genuinely antisemitic in Hasan Piker because there isn’t.
I used to have absolutely no problem with Jews, or Israel. Hell I’ve even thought of converting. But after their raping slaughterfest of Palestine, I don’t want anything to do with the brand, or the product. I say nuke Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, and Israel back to the stone age, then fund a pro democracy movement in Iran and co-opt it while helping Europe push Russians implosion.
There’s way too many things in there to deserve an upvote, but I do agree with some things. Jews were even stereotypically looked at in high regards in many career options in the US. Nowadays, the only saving grace is that a lot of Jews are protesting what Israel is doing.