A lot of the uptick is probably at least “blamed” on the need for infrastructure upgrades. These “benefit everyone” even though they are caused by basically one client, so the price increase to cover the upgrades is applied to everyone.
No, neither of you understand how this works or why a data center might cause local electricity bills to go up.
Your bill might go up because the electric company doesn’t give two shits who they sell their electricity to and companies like Google, Meta, etc. are all capable of far outspending actual families and peoples in these local markets. So, the peon’s prices go up.
It’s like, really simply supply/demand economics… it isn’t some grand conspiracy.
Idk why everyone has fucking surprise pikachu face at this sort of thing, big tech made out like a bandit with literally everyone’s money in the 2010s and has been sitting on it since. Everyone has memory like a goldfish though and doesn’t seem to understand exactly the scale of wealth these companies have. If they didn’t dump it all into LLMs and AI they would’ve found other vanity projects to fund.
The problem here isn’t the data centers or AI, it’s that we willingly handed over the keys to the city! Blaming morally neutral things like infrastructure is what they want you to do because then you won’t focus on doing actually effective activism and resistance to their stranglehold on the economy. 80% aren’t some clever sleuths who “really realize what’s going on,” you’re all being fooled and it is surprisingly easy to do. I’ve been on the other side before, I’ve seen it. They know what they’re doing. We collectively don’t. Simple as, to borrow from across the pond.
For the OC that’s fair - but I’m not replying to you directly, I’m replying to the person confidently responding to the ELI5 with conjecture that has no basis in reality. ELI5 doesn’t mean “take random stabs in the dark even if you know nothing about what you’re talking about.”
I’m open to alternative thoughts here but I legitimately feel your emotion may be clouding your writing, because I’m honestly trying, but while I think I get the direction you are trying to take the conversation it’s not entirely coherent to me. For as much as you wrote it feels like a few incomplete thoughts strung together.
I’ve been screaming that the power and water and cost issues are failures of our local governments. No, it’s not capitalism, socialists can be bought and paid for as well. No, the feds need do nothing, city and state governments should handle their unique issues. Yes, we need to vote out or city and county councilmen who allow this horseshit.
OK, I could easily argue for the state taxing the snot out of these data centers. Seems a no-brainer.
seems like this community really doesn’t like hearing the truth that changing these things are down to their action or inaction as individuals and a group. having a victim complex feels really popular nowadays.
wow, who could’ve predicted that sitting and consuming tiktok slop brainrot for 15 years rendered most people dumb as rocks??
A lot of the uptick is probably at least “blamed” on the need for infrastructure upgrades. These “benefit everyone” even though they are caused by basically one client, so the price increase to cover the upgrades is applied to everyone.
No, neither of you understand how this works or why a data center might cause local electricity bills to go up.
Your bill might go up because the electric company doesn’t give two shits who they sell their electricity to and companies like Google, Meta, etc. are all capable of far outspending actual families and peoples in these local markets. So, the peon’s prices go up.
It’s like, really simply supply/demand economics… it isn’t some grand conspiracy.
Idk why everyone has fucking surprise pikachu face at this sort of thing, big tech made out like a bandit with literally everyone’s money in the 2010s and has been sitting on it since. Everyone has memory like a goldfish though and doesn’t seem to understand exactly the scale of wealth these companies have. If they didn’t dump it all into LLMs and AI they would’ve found other vanity projects to fund.
The problem here isn’t the data centers or AI, it’s that we willingly handed over the keys to the city! Blaming morally neutral things like infrastructure is what they want you to do because then you won’t focus on doing actually effective activism and resistance to their stranglehold on the economy. 80% aren’t some clever sleuths who “really realize what’s going on,” you’re all being fooled and it is surprisingly easy to do. I’ve been on the other side before, I’ve seen it. They know what they’re doing. We collectively don’t. Simple as, to borrow from across the pond.
Was it the “ELI5” part that gave it away, Einstein?
For the OC that’s fair - but I’m not replying to you directly, I’m replying to the person confidently responding to the ELI5 with conjecture that has no basis in reality. ELI5 doesn’t mean “take random stabs in the dark even if you know nothing about what you’re talking about.”
I’m open to alternative thoughts here but I legitimately feel your emotion may be clouding your writing, because I’m honestly trying, but while I think I get the direction you are trying to take the conversation it’s not entirely coherent to me. For as much as you wrote it feels like a few incomplete thoughts strung together.
I’ve been screaming that the power and water and cost issues are failures of our local governments. No, it’s not capitalism, socialists can be bought and paid for as well. No, the feds need do nothing, city and state governments should handle their unique issues. Yes, we need to vote out or city and county councilmen who allow this horseshit.
OK, I could easily argue for the state taxing the snot out of these data centers. Seems a no-brainer.
seems like this community really doesn’t like hearing the truth that changing these things are down to their action or inaction as individuals and a group. having a victim complex feels really popular nowadays.
wow, who could’ve predicted that sitting and consuming tiktok slop brainrot for 15 years rendered most people dumb as rocks??
I think in this particular situation, people just don’t like your communication style.